Oh. I've just looked up 'sea-lion'. Jesus fucking Christ. In one thread we've had the argument, from supposed progressives, that;

1. Vote your government back in no matter what their policies are, just do so out of blind faith.
2. Don't look things up for yourself, just accept what the authorities tell you without question.
3. Don't ask for evidence or challenge this view, just accept it without question.

This is the progressive position now?

This isn't politics, it's a fucking religion.