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The world has a lot of different standards for a lot of things, but I have never heard of a place with the default screw thread direction being opposite.

So does each language have a fun mnemonic?

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[-] 418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

This phrase has never made any sense to me. It’s a circle. If one side is moving right, then the opposite side is moving left. So the phrase only makes sense if you specify which side we are talking about, which nobody ever does. Therefore it’s completely illogical to me while everyone else just gets it. Side note: Autism can be a real bitch sometimes.

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  1. Some people don’t understand how I can see a problem. That’s cool, but don’t be a dick. We all look at the world through different lenses.
  2. This is when I was a kid “helping” my grandfather in the garage. I’m older now and understand that “righty tighty” references the top of the rotation.
  3. Some people rotate their perspective 90° and imagine themselves standing on the screw. Therefore when your face rotates to the right the screw is tightened. I hadn’t ever thought of that. But I had imagined rotating my perspective 90° the other direction –the top of my head as a screwdriver. In that case, “lefty tighty”
[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

SAME!

Even "clockwise/counter-clockwise" is a bit vague if you're not both on the same side of the thing, since something turning clockwise from one perspective turns counter seen from the opposite side.

[-] MrShankles@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Clockwise and counterclockwise may be more intuitive for some people. Is the clock-hand (wrench) going forward in time, or backwards. But I don't know of any quick rhyme for that

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

If it were a wheel which way would it roll?

[-] Backlog3231@reddthat.com 13 points 1 day ago

But the entire rotation is either clockwise (right) or counterclockwise (left). Ultimately, its just a helpful reminder which way to turn lol

[-] 418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago

Clockwise and counter-clockwise makes sense.

But when you say “right” it’s not clear which side of the circle is being referenced. If the top of the circle is moving to the right, the bottom is moving left at the same time. So the saying only makes sense when you specify that you’re talking about the top of the circle.

[-] Backlog3231@reddthat.com 1 points 3 hours ago

If this is truly something that doesn't make sense to you, you may want to consider being tested for Autism if you have not already. This phrase is not something neurotypical people struggle with.

And I say that as someone who is not clinically autistic, but who is real fuckin' close to it. No judgment, I'm not trying to make you feel bad or anything, it is just an observation.

I didn't mean to unleash this torrent of comments on you, sorry.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

you have to have never seen a steering wheel to not understand which side of the circle is being referenced. it's always the top. who would even reference anything else and why.

"turn it right"

"which part???"

"the middle of course, you absolute alien"

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago

I think we can all understand how it functions but that doesn't make it "correct." It's spinning around a circle. Exactly half of its moving right as the other half moves left. That's why we have the terms clockwise and counter-clockwise. If left and right were actually reasonable for something spinning in a circle this wouldn't exist.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

yes it would. we always have redundancy, especially in speech. also we're not robots, technicality doesn't matter, how we communicate does. do you get confused when people say something like "that's all behind us now" meaning the past? do you literally turn around and argue that there's nothing really behind you and they should have said in the past instead?

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 12 hours ago

I don't get confused by any of this. Stop pretending like everyone else is stupid. If you're looking at the hands of a clock, they aren't moving right when they're moving clockwise half of the time. The applies to everything moving around a circle. Left and right are only useful if you're looking at a specific segment of it. Clockwise is what we use for rotations everywhere else. For example, look at this wiki page that says this: "Rotation or rotational motion is the circular movement of an object around a central line, known as an axis of rotation. A plane figure can rotate in either a clockwise or counterclockwise sense around a perpendicular axis intersecting anywhere inside or outside the figure at a center of rotation." Right is literally never even used in that page, and left is only used once. The terms don't make sense for rotations. We can make up rules for how they can be considered for rotations, but they fundamentally are not words used to describe rotations. Do you get confused when people say there are more useful words to describe a function?

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[-] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

If you're looking head on to the screw/nut/whatever then we're talking about the top of the screw/but/whatever.

You can also imagine if the nut was actually a wheel. Which way would you spin it to make it roll left or right.

Confused the hell out of me at a young age. That's how I came around to thinking of it

[-] masterbaexunn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Don't think about it in 3d space.

[-] 418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago

I assure you I’m only thinking of it in two dimensions.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

They mean is the wrench handle moving left from the 12 o'clock position or left from the 6 o'clock position. You would not believe how many people struggle with lefty righty because of start location.

I defer to clockwise and counter-clockwise (anti-clockwise in UK). Except for new gen that never learned analog clock stuggles with this concept also.

Then they encounter a Left Hand thread and the universe implodes

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