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[-] Cpo@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

My experience with Nvidia (granted, 3 years old experience):

Going with the closed source driver means stuff breaking each kernel update. Going with the opensource driver (while it may work for you): not everything is supported.

So its not just "people being annoyed with Nvidia" i'd say.

[-] ouch@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Going with the closed source driver means stuff breaking each kernel update.

What distro are you using if nvidia breaks after every kernel update? What do you need to do to fix the breakage?

[-] Cpo@lemm.ee 2 points 22 hours ago

Debian.

Well, every kernel update is overstated maybe, but I had my fixed workflow of dropping to text mode and reinstalling the latest drivers from vendor, which is annoying as hell.

Dropped the card after meddling about for almost a year. Been using Linux since slackware was still hip & happening.

[-] ouch@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago
[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago

Keeps jumping to the latest kernel instead of the latest stable release.

Blames nvidia for not keeping up...

I've been on Manjaro for years and have literally NEVER had your issue. Why, because I don't just automatically change to the latest kernel and then wonder why shit doesn't work.

After an update, it'll tell me if a newer kernel is available, I'll look at it and if its a new stable release I'll change to it with no issue because an NVIDIA update was likely included with that update.

Stop forcing early adoption on your computer and then blaming others when it fucks up your shit.

[-] aspitzer@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I agree. User is probably doing unsupported options. If they want to live on the bleeding edge, that is fine, but dont blame the hardware if something does not work.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

Did you use your package manager and dkms? You need to recompile the driver hook with each kernel update.

I've had Nvidia cards since the Riva TNT2 and it's been reasonably smooth sailing... 🤷‍♂️

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 18 hours ago

That doesn't sound remotely like "smooth sailing"...

[-] aspitzer@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Literally just follow the distro instructions. Even NixOS works fine.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 4 hours ago

That literally doesn't work.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -1 points 17 hours ago

I suppose if you don't know what you're doing - that's true. It's not something unique to nvidia either - it's true of any drivers outside the kernel source. But that's what dkms is for - it automatically handles it for you when you update your kernel.

If you don't want to learn how the system you use works then you suffer the consequences. Or you just continue to blame nvidia for your own ignorance as I'm sure you will.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 12 hours ago

If you don't want to learn how the system you use works then you suffer the consequences.

No consequences here. I'm perfectly happy continuing on using AMD.

you just continue to blame nvidia for your own ignorance as I'm sure you will.

It's nothing to do with my ignorance and everything to do with me simply not want to spend hours upon hours digging through forums and entering commands that do nothing.

Why do you think AMD always work out of the box and people constantly have problems with Nvidia? Is it because they're "ignorant" or because it's unnecessarily convoluted?

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 hours ago

No consequences here. I’m perfectly happy continuing on using AMD.

Sure - and you're limited to systems that use an AMD chip. Consequences. I'm sure you justify this to yourself though.

Why do you think AMD always work out of the box and people constantly have problems with Nvidia? Is it because they’re “ignorant” or because it’s unnecessarily convoluted?

I don't think - I know. Because one is integrated with the kernel and built and distributed with it and the other is a separate module. This isn't something unique to nvidia either - my system has modules from system76 as well as v4l2loopback that are also compiled separately.

But since I install my packages using "apt" they are all managed by dkms and I don't need to worry about it. Because I took a few minutes to learn about how my computer works.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 6 hours ago

you're limited to systems that use an AMD chip

Once again, not a consequence.

I don't think - I know.

You know...what?

But since I install my packages using "apt" they are all managed by dkms and I don't need to worry about it.

My guy, I don't even know what these words mean. And with AMD, I don't have to become a software engineer. It just works.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago

This is the literal definition of a consequence. 🤣

My guy, I don't even know what these words mean. And with AMD, I don't have to become a software engineer. It just works.

Fucking hell...

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 5 hours ago

This is the literal definition of a consequence

...what is?

Fucking hell...

...was there something you wanted to add?

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago

Consequence: "a result or effect of an action or condition."

e.g "being stuck buying only amd kit"

Oh no, absolutely nothing else to add. I don't want to confuse you with "software engineer speak". Enjoy the self-imposed ignorance.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 5 hours ago

e.g "being stuck buying only amd kit"

For the third time, not a consequence. Consequence implies some sort of sacrifice.

Oh no, absolutely nothing else to add.

Excellent, glad to hear it. 👍

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee -5 points 23 hours ago

Not anymore, at least if you not use an outdated distro 😜

[-] Cpo@lemm.ee 2 points 23 hours ago

I'll interpret this as "it worked for you". It did not work for me.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 22 hours ago

It did not 3 years ago, what kernel was latest then? This is lake ages ago.

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