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It is mind boggling to me that in the year 2023 we're complaining about porn, LGBT existence, and fucking book content. Isn't this what we were laughing at 20 years ago? About book burnings and how stupid the previous generations were for fearing and banning media that challenged them?
It's easy to forget because of how quickly the cultural zeitgeist shifted when it finally did, but the early 2000s was still very homophobic. Watching pretty much any comedy from that era reminds you of just how common the punchline to jokes was just, "teehee they're gay."
In the early 2000s it was exceptionally common to hear things referred to as “gay” if they were “bad” in some way. Chandler’s “Dad” in friends is one I look back on and shudder. I understand when boomers say things like “things were different back then, but our ability to reflect and do better is what moves our species forward. Not dig in and scream no!
You ever watch Lily Simpson on You Tube, she does analysis of trans characters and their treatment in older media. Her analysis of Chandlers dad actually showed they weren't that bad of a depiction.
Yup been watching Scrubs and while a still funny show a lot of the time, there's still a lot of jokes that make me cringe. I'm sure it's like that for any show in that era.
Scrubs was cringe even when it was fresh
Fair lol.
I think you are missing about whole point of jokes being jokes.
tee-hee it's scared and regressive
Of course. Humor is never used to other out-groups so they can be treated as less. Gay jokes are just good clean fun. Like racist and misogynist jokes. /s
We were laughing, they were seething and planning.
The real impact of the 9/11 attacks: There is direct line from shock and confusion to nationalistic rhetoric and "'OOORAH!"- patriotism to the rise of the Tea Party, the growing influence of the Evangelicals up to the emergence of Trumpism and Qanon.
Don't forget that the CIA armed and trained the militias that would eventually become Al Qaeda. We were the architects of our own demise.
History is cyclical if large chunks of the population refuse to acknowledge it.
You should watch the documentary show about the duggars and how they’re part of a huge cult that systemically indoctrinates kids, fucks them, and gets them into politics. It’s disgusting. It’s an organized push of quiverfull fundamentalist shit being pushed into law.
Shiny Happy People, for the people wondering what the documentary is called.
Thanks- I had forgotten!
Most of them ARE previous generation.
Human nature doesn't change that much over time. Teenage me thought the future would be awesome because people like me would be in power. Adult me knows that people my age and younger are like everyone before them, just younger.
AD&D is a gateway to Satan worship and witchcraft. /s
... AT&T ?
Biblical Satan, not the real one.
You're selling Comcast short there. They put in the effort, they should get 1st place. Please have their medal ready somewhere between 6am and 2pm on Tuesday, if they don't cancel.
ATT was honing their evil while Comcast was still in diapers. You should look into the history of ATT and just how long they have been around in various forms.
See also: the Carterfone and Hush-a-phone decisions.
Dungeons and Dragons. Tabletop roleplaying game. Because it featured demons, magic, etc with elaborate books documenting it all, conservatives condemned it.
More context for OP, AD&D is Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, basically it is the second edition of Dungeons and Dragons before they started using the 3E, 3.5E, 4E, 5E nomenclature.
ADHD? Some days, I think it might be…