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submitted 1 day ago by rah@feddit.uk to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz

Ukraine is seriously considering the possibility of restoring nuclear weapons. This is reported by Bild with reference to a source.

“We have the materials, we have the knowledge. If there is an order, it will only take us a few weeks to get the first bomb,” said a Ukrainian official.

And Western countries should think less about Russia’s red lines and much more about Ukraine’s red lines.

According to analyst Julian Repke, a condition for restoring the nuclear weapons Ukraine has surrendered could be a second attempt by the Russian Federation to go after Kyiv.

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[-] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 day ago
[-] Comment105@lemm.ee 24 points 20 hours ago

They're right to do it.

Russia proved to the world that every single promise made for nuclear non-proliferation is a lie, and the only way to deter an empire remains "be fucking dangerous".

It's very fucking sad and we're committing to MADness harder than ever because of Putin and Russian dumbass hardass culture.

Russian men are to blame for wanting all this, demanding it, fighting for it instead of against it.

It seems entirely possible to me that Russia decides to preemptively nuke Ukraine to prevent them from getting their own, and at that point either the US decides it's not worth retaliating for them, or the end of the world is ordered ... but even if that happens, I just don't care. Reason and stability are forfeit and before we get people back on board, before we get Russians back to it, I wouldn't be surprised if there has to be close calls where everything might go wrong and never get another chance to be resolved. But I've lived my whole life with the nuclear threat and the doomsday clock strongly defining everything that ever happened in my life as borrowed time, permitted by empires withholding global annihilation. I've come to fucking accept it a long time ago. The cultural impact of nuclear doomsday threats on widespread nihilism seems obvious. And in my mind it's just fucking fitting that stupid humans should choose to fuck eachother completely over and be left with nothing to lord over. Going into it knowing that and being fine with it because at least the enemy is also obliterated, poisoned, and doomed. Humans are just like that. We're angry idiots and a lot of us deserve that kind of end. If going interstellar was ever a distant potential, it might even be for the best that we don't bring our bullshit outside Earth's cradle. It seems insane to me that anyone could not be feeling misanthropic after the failures of the hopes built up in the late 80's.

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 6 points 16 hours ago

You need to understand that Putin is only ordering a nuclear strike as the last option for him to stay in power, because after that he knows that is only a matter of time before someone kill him, what can happen is Russia backing out and he pray for the population to not rebel against him, and to be fair, Russians don't give a fuck so that would happen

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Hopefully a large building crumbles over putin accidentally like the Hamas incident thus week.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

It’s not just the US. Nuclear launches any nuclear power allied with Ukraine could fire. My bets are actually on France or the UK

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