Kamala Harris on Sinwar Death: ‘Justice Has Been Served’ (www.wsj.com)

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[-] jonne@infosec.pub 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I can't read the whole article, but maybe she's seeing this as an opportunity to get Israel to dial the conflict down. Probably naive to think they'll stop for anything at this stage though, because they've shown it was never about the hostages to begin with.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

Why would Israel dial down the conflict when they just took out another obstacle in their march to settle all of Gaza and the West Bank and part or all of Lebanon?

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 1 points 3 days ago

Exactly.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 8 points 3 days ago

I suspect that's what she thinks she's doing, but I wish politicians didn't speak in code. Just say that she expects Israel to reduce the level of conflict now. That way Israel can't take it as a endorsement of their future actions.

[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I feel it is more in the lines of 'Justice is served' justifying the genocide and continuing support of US if the genocide continues.

Israel knows it is needed by US and Arab countries as an deterrent to Iran. And it is going to press the advantage to the extremes.

[+] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world -12 points 3 days ago

Sinwar was seen as a big impediment to any deal. Usually just he would decide to walk away from talks, as opposed to a whole delegation like the other parties. Anyway, after being imprisoned for 20 years, several of them in solitary, and writing a book glorifying martyrdom, it seems that he was fully committed to the long term struggle against the Jew and removing him may help end this genocide.

[-] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago

removing him may help end this genocide.

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

You see, now that it's absolutely impossible for him to do anything at all, he may stop doing certain things

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 8 points 3 days ago

That is bullshit. Hamas has repeatedly agreed to the Biden proposal and even offered a ceasefire deal with hostage exchange as early as October 2023.

It was Netanyahu always sabotaging the negotiations. In particular after the Biden plan by rejecting to leave Gaza and bombing tents in Rafah, burning people alive.

Also Sinwar wasn't even the negotiator. It was Hanyeh, who got assassinated by Israel, while negotiations were running. A clearer sign of not wanting to negotiate does not exist.

[-] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago

I agree netanyahu's delegation has walked away multiple times but hamas has too. Sinwar was not the negotiator, he was the military commander on the ground so even when the hamas delegation would make progress all decisions on what goes on in Gaza went through him. He wanted a war and was (at least outwardly, judging by his writing) happy to be martyred.

I am not saying Israel is a good or consistent negotiator in this but Sinwar was a terrorist who was keeping hostages as insurance. He decided to do the attack on 10/7. This was a decision he could not get backing for from his benefactors (as far as has been reported.)

Netanyahu knows that the US will not cut off support for them. It's not even seriously discussed in the MSM. Bibi will continue to massacre the Palestinians until they are all displaced or dead. This is the only way he is staying in power. His alliance depends on settlers and other orthodox. That being said, maybe more western countries start pressuring him, cutting aid, air dropping food or something now that Hamas' leadership is being degraded.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Israel has rejected all ceasefire resolutions that would require a permanent peace, like the 3-stage UN Resolution put forth by the US. Hamas has only rejected ceasefire resolutions that would only be temporary, meaning Israel would continue the genocide after they take the hostages, or where Israel wants to continue occupying Gaza, which isn't peace. Kinda hard to 'both sides' the peace negotiations when it's very clearly one sided.

Gaza has never experienced peace, nor has the West Bank, there is no peace living under the daily violence of an Apartheid State.

[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

removing him may help end this genocide.

Genocide ends only in two conditions. Either the population is decimated or the genocide conducting party is no longer in power.

It doesn’t seem likely Netanyahu will be removed in the near future. There is however the other possibility.

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