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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/45237868

“He’s doing a good job,” Trump saidabout the Israeli leader. “Biden is trying to hold him back, just so you understand, Biden is more superior to the VP. He’s trying to hold him back, and he probably should be doing the opposite, actually. I’m glad that Netanyahu decided to do what he had to do, but it’s moving along pretty good.”

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[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 26 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Once again, what the fuck conversation are you responding to? If you don't disagree with what they said, that Trump is worse than Biden, why are you spending so much time arguing with them? Please note that they never said Biden was GOOD, just that Trump was WORSE.

nobody thinks trump would be better for Palestinians besides people who ... don’t vote

So, aside from the people who think that, nobody thinks that? Helpful. Do you think they're maybe not voting because they think Trump can't be any worse?

Please fuck off with your strawmanning OP into a person saying things they definitely didn't say. Fuck off with your false assertion that we criticise Trump because we love Biden. Fuck off with your "I'm not a russian spy" assertion when nobody ever called you one. Fuck off with your constant smug spamming of the Palestinian flag as if we aren't on the same fucking side.

You're not just preaching to the choir, you're calling the choir blasphemers and heretics. If you're going to respond to someone, please respond to what they said, and not what you think they could have said.

[-] Klear@sh.itjust.works 11 points 16 hours ago

He's a Trump supporter arguing in bad faith, stop engaging with him, it won't lead to anything good.

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 10 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, he definitely looks like someone trying to splinter the left to weaken support, then adding "I'm voting Harris" and "Free Palestine" in the way some republicans say "as a black man..."

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world -5 points 16 hours ago

The conversation anyone who is pro Palestine is having 24/7. From Kamala's "I'm speaking", through actions of Biden and press releases by Trump. You are reacting as if none of what OP said ever happens. You are acting like "Trump is worse!" Isn't immediately followed by "vote Kamala" as if she somehow will solve the problem. Just because one candidate sucks, doesn't mean you can't criticize the other for doing the same shit. You keep going "fuck off with X" (which is a shitty thing to do btw) and basically telling them to shut up, stay silent and not bother you / not speak out. You are the exact problem OP is responding to. And then you say "I'm on your side".

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 9 points 16 hours ago

Cool. It's not happening here. You're having this conversation non-stop because you keep forcing this conversation when nobody's even talking. Why does the statement "Trump is bad" have to be followed by "Biden is also bad"? Those are two different conversations.

Will voting Harris fix the problem? Probably not. Will not voting Harris make things worse? Yes. Do you want things to be worse, or do you want to vote Harris? Just because she's imperfect doesn't change that.

It's a shitty thing to strawman someone to condemn them for things they haven't said. Telling someone not to do a shit thing is not a shit thing.

I am pro-Palestine, anti-Trump, and I think American politics is too right-wing overall. I just don't think "Biden is causing a genocide" is a good response to "Trump would actively make things worse."

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