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“He’s doing a good job,” Trump saidabout the Israeli leader. “Biden is trying to hold him back, just so you understand, Biden is more superior to the VP. He’s trying to hold him back, and he probably should be doing the opposite, actually. I’m glad that Netanyahu decided to do what he had to do, but it’s moving along pretty good.”

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -4 points 18 hours ago

Nor am I. Unfortunately, there are plenty of people on lemmy who are so pro-genocide that they cannot abide any criticism of it, no matter how mild. These people immediately assume that anyone who has any misgivings at all about Democrats supporting Netanyahu's genocide must be a trump supporter.

I'm looking forward to October 21, when early voting opens in Texas, so I can vote for Harris. That doesn't mean I must remain silent about genocide.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago

No one here is pro-genocide. It’s all in your head as a defense mechanism to use against people that disagree with you.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -3 points 14 hours ago
[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Hey bud, genocide denial isn’t genocide support. And while I truly believe genocide is happening, (mods- take note that I said this as I’m certain they’re reporting me for genocide denial)…

there will always be other people out there who try and define things by their own terms. This doesn’t make them right- but we all know your false equivalence has no filter, or ability to discern the difference between the two.

If someone says “I don’t have cancer” when they have cancer, that doesn’t make them pro cancer. It’s just makes them in denial.

In short- saying that it is’t genocide isn’t saying they would support it if it were. And it’s well known that you constantly accuse everyone that calls you out as a genocide supporter. So since we’re handing our advice….

Maybe don’t do that.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -5 points 14 hours ago

Hey bud, genocide denial isn’t genocide support.

It absolutely is.

[-] rsuri@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

So you admit then, that Palestinians committed an act of genocide against Israel on Oct. 7.

And don't deny it's a genocide, cause you know what that means.

And I should specify that no, I don't seriously take that position. I'm really just here to be an asshole about faulty logic.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -4 points 7 hours ago

So you're openly admitting to trolling.

[-] rsuri@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Nope, I'm an anti-troll. Trolling is trying to provoke an emotional reaction. I'm trying to provoke a logical reaction.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Bravo! Love this. Well done my man.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -3 points 5 hours ago

Ok. Let's say Hamas committed genocide.

We're not arming Hamas.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

So it seems that with you, it’s not about the genocide, it’s just about America being involved. Because frankly, I never see you standing against Russia and their genocide. Is it because America is on the side you prefer in that conflict?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

We're not supporting Russia's genocide in Ukraine, either.

I'm not upset about how the US is handling Ukraine, except that they're not supporting Ukraine enough.

Make your accusations overtly if you're going to lie about me for opposing Netanyahu's genocide.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

Hate to break it you you, but… We aren’t supporting genocide anywhere. You need a new bit. This broken record genocide accusation thing is old.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

We aren’t supporting genocide anywhere

There's a genocide going on in Gaza, for which we are supplying weapons. That's support.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

We’d be supplying those weapon if there wasn’t genocide happening. Which means we’re only honoring an agreement.

Israel would be continuing their genocide with or without America being involved.

I REALLY wish you people would pay attention some time.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

We’d be supplying those weapon if there wasn’t genocide happening.

And when the genocide started, we had a moral obligation to cease. And a legal one under the Leahy law.

Israel would be continuing their genocide with or without America being involved.

And you prefer with.

I REALLY wish you people would pay attention some time.

"you people"?

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago
[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago

I’m not going to argue this with you. Just call me a “gEnoCiDe sUpPoRtEr” and begone.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -5 points 14 hours ago

Would you prefer a genocide denier, since you're pretending they're not the same thing?

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Did you purposefully ignore that I said in my comment that I absolutely agree that it’s happening?

See?

It’s so easy to get you to prove the accusations against you. You know I didn’t deny shit and anyone that can read can see that, yet you accuse anyway in an obvious display of bad faith trolling.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -5 points 14 hours ago

Did you purposefully ignore that I said in my comment that I absolutely agree that it’s happening?

Genocide denial is genocide support. Particularly in cases where an obvious genocide is taking place. Not all genocide support is genocide denial.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

If someone says “I don’t have cancer” when they have cancer, that doesn’t make them pro cancer. It’s just makes them in denial.

Also… it’s amazing how quickly your comments are upvoted after you post. In a discussion chain that began 12 hours ago and was only recently updated. Seems it’s perfect timing for your support to swoop in. Also, it’s uncanny how often this happens to you.

Hmm.

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