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Jews shut down the New York Stock Exchange to protest Israel. Here’s why | Elena Stein
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Is Trump's any different?
No, that's why people subscribed to the duopoly have no prob. supporting genocide.
Ok, so her stance in the current conflict is not worse than Trump's?
Effectively making it pointless at best to bring up now, at worst it will stop people voting for her and the world will have to deal with Trump and his lackeys for another 4 years.
Focus on getting Harris in office, then focus on changing her attitude in the conflict.
I am sorry but that is the only way to do it.
I may not be American, but even I can see that while you might sway Harris on the issue, there is zero chance swaying Trump about anything other than being worse:
Harris is a genocide candidate supporting a genocide as part of the genocidal Biden-Harris administration. I should not need to tell you that you should oppose genocide rather than trying to use tortured and wrong primary school political logic for how support for genocide is actually opposing it and that the time to make demands is when you have thrown away any concept of leverage.
Just repeat after me: "I will not vote for any politician that has supported genocide".
This is admirable, in a normal democracy, the US has a broken democracy, someone abstaining from voting for the less bad option will directly benefit the worse option.
I am just trying to bring some realism into the discussion, in a democracy without FPTP your option would be fine, with FPTP a lack of vote for one option will directly benefit the other.
If you don't want Trump to manage this crisis, you gotta vote Harris.
I am aware if such tortured illogic, I already described it as wrong and simplistic.
Since you refuse to oppose genocide, just be plain. Say, "No I will not say that. I will vote for a genocide candidate."
You know. Just be honest.
I'll be honest, if I were an American, I'd vote democrat, since they seem far more likely to abollish the electoral college and FPTP than the republicans.
You live in a fantasy world where you think that abstaining from voting will do anything other than support the Republicans.
I may not like either side very much, but I am a realist, and the reallity is that the Democrats are the lesser of two evils.
So far you have only complained, and not shown any even vaugley realistic alternative to mine, and don't say abstaining from voting, or voting for a third party, in todays America it will only benefit the Republicans.
But I do have to appologize, I am truly sorry for expecting a resonable debate with a user from lemmy.ml and especially on a lemmy.ml community, I am very sorry for wasting both of our time.