176

Why do cell phones have a data limit but home internet doesn't? I understand bandwidth limits, but how can home internet get away with giving users all the data they can use, but cell phone providers can't?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Home Internet usually doesn't have unlimited internet. There's usually caps baked in somewhere. Don't believe me? Read the fine print. At some point, at some bandwidth usage in the monthly cycle, they will throttle the living crap out of your connection. It's written into pretty much every contract I've ever signed, and I've been with over a dozen carriers of landline internet over the years.

The reason being that they don't want you serving websites or business class functionality with residential level internet. They didn't build their network with those constraints. They want you paying for and using the business internet package, which has dedicated bandwidth and no caps because you're paying for a dedicated line to be run.

For mobile phones? Old pricing models still trying to be relevant. There's no technical reason.

[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago

Home internet has unlimited internet

It's not 2002

Well, maybe not in that....one.... country

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Are you sure?

There's "hard" caps, and there's "soft" caps. When you hit the soft caps with many of these ISP's, they start throttling your internet usage by a substantial amount.

Relevant Screenshot of caps as of Sept 2024.

[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

I said "home internet hasn't had data caps for a couple of decades, well except maybe in that one country where people have no consumer rights and everyone gets fucked up the arse for money just for existing". I'm paraphrasing here.

You said - "Oh yeah, let me prove you right!"

I'm not sure where you're going with this

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Ok, I missed the sarcasm and allusion to the US as the country you were talking about. That's fair.

I assumed the OP was asking the question for the US. Which of course, is the thing people in my country do. Assume everything is about us ;)

[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Weird how 97% of people don't think that eh? 😂

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Closer to 96/95% now ;) But yeah, your point stands. What's even worse about this, is I'm working on a dual citizenship with Portugal, so I should have had more self-awareness than I showed ;)

[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Good luck! Everyone deserves unlimited internet and consumer rights!

[-] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 5 points 2 months ago

I can only speak from a UK perspective, but most home ADSL/VDSL/Fibre providers don't have limits, other than "if your usage is tanking the network, we'll ask you to knock it off" type clauses.

Most providers are also signed up to an agreement that if your speed drops 50% below the agreed speed on the package on average, they'll either give you refunds, or let you out of the contract.

The only ones that throttle are the bargain basement operators aimed at people who don't care, and one otherwise very competent provider that for some unexplainable reason only gives 1TB by default, charging an extra £10 for 10TB.

And I guess there is also a pricing step up to guaranteed bandwidth. For business use, they tend to be things like 1gbits headline, 500mbit guaranteed burst, 100mbit guaranteed sustained.

[-] poke@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

I am in the US and I do not have a hard cap, and I regularly go WELL above the soft cap listed for my ISP in that image with no throttling.

[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I've read the contract of my internet provider. No limit

Then again, I don't live in the US

[-] TastyWheat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Same, no limit. Not American.

this post was submitted on 24 Oct 2024
176 points (94.0% liked)

No Stupid Questions

36182 readers
1187 users here now

No such thing. Ask away!

!nostupidquestions is a community dedicated to being helpful and answering each others' questions on various topics.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules (interactive)


Rule 1- All posts must be legitimate questions. All post titles must include a question.

All posts must be legitimate questions, and all post titles must include a question. Questions that are joke or trolling questions, memes, song lyrics as title, etc. are not allowed here. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.



Rule 2- Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.

Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.



Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.

Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.



Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.

That's it.



Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.

Questions which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.



Rule 6- Regarding META posts and joke questions.

Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-question posts using the [META] tag on your post title.

On fridays, you are allowed to post meme and troll questions, on the condition that it's in text format only, and conforms with our other rules. These posts MUST include the [NSQ Friday] tag in their title.

If you post a serious question on friday and are looking only for legitimate answers, then please include the [Serious] tag on your post. Irrelevant replies will then be removed by moderators.



Rule 7- You can't intentionally annoy, mock, or harass other members.

If you intentionally annoy, mock, harass, or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.



Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.



Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.

Let everyone have their own content.



Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.



Credits

Our breathtaking icon was bestowed upon us by @Cevilia!

The greatest banner of all time: by @TheOneWithTheHair!

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS