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I dont need to think anything, i just see thats what they do and thats how it always worked.
Yall are the ones who are juicing fake outrage as if this is something new.
Or did yall just now discover thay you live in oligarchy lol
Who is “yall” in this scenario, and why are you lumping me in with whoever that is because I think billionaires silencing journalism is indeed a story?
Anyway sorry I’m not going to play more leftist than thou, hope you get whatever you’re needing out of that though I guess.
People reposting this story endlesly and people larping it as if this is something new.
You’re right, we should all just accept it and not even try to make note of it. Good idea!
The lesson here is oligarchy overall... Not that one guy did something that is essentially a vote of no confidence for your team lol
You have to be a fucking teenager. If you're an adult you should take a test.
Lord, I’d never hear any news if it was only things that have never happened before.
do you have hypoxia or something? Jesus christ
It is new. That’s . . . that’s why the stories were published today. In the news.
Cool. No reason to change anything then! Everything's great, just like it's always been!
You dont change anythinf by larping or voting for either of the parties.
Change starts with 3p vote.
The I guess change is never going to happen. No third party candidate in the past 30 years has come even close to Ross Perot in the 1992 election. He got 18.9% of the vote. Do you know how many of the 270 electoral college delegates he needed to win that he got? Zero. Not a single delegate. You have to literally go back more than 100 years to find an example of a third party candidate even coming that close.
So if that's your big hope for change, you might as well just give up and get out of everyone else's way.
I dont play politics.
Neither party supports me so I am voting 3p.
Obviously no 3p is winning but i cant in good conscience to vote for the two party system.
Such is life in opposition. This is a generational fight anyway.
If there is ecer hope hope for a break out, it will be done via 3p votes upsetting the status quo.
When did this become just about you? You said change has to happen by voting third party.
Did you even work for a third party campaign this year? If so, which one and what did you do?
Or do you hope you can just talk about voting third party to random people on internet forums and use the rules laid out in The Secret and then it will come to pass?
Doing my part and sharing it online
Others can make their own voting decisions, i am here to explain how 3p works.
It seems some people see the merit while most dont. And thats totallt fine.
Right, so you didn't actually campaign for any candidate, which makes your "vote third party" idea even sillier.
This is how many third party candidates there are this year:
Jill Stein
Chase Oliver
Claude De La Cruz
Randall Terry
Cornel West
So if you think people should vote either for Green Party candidate Jill Stein or Constitution Party candidate Randall Terry and it doesn't matter which one because "third party or nothing," you are an unserious person.
It's like saying you don't care if dinner is shit or salad as long as it isn't meat.
I am a wage worker with a full time job.
It is not my job produce a candidate. I vote based on what it is available which is shit, shit or 3p shit.
I am just going to write in some random so my voted is counted in the total but it doesnt go to kamala trump...
This is not rocket science, this is pure opposition to the two party system.
I will keep doing this until i am dead OR system produces somebody i can stomach, we can revisit the issue then.
Ps. I dont think you understand the concept of opposition. Looks like muslim americans are discovering it tho. Wierd times but maybe thats what it takes or NOT
I didn't ask you to produce a candidate.
I gave you a list of third party candidates running in 2024. You won't say who people should vote for.
Jill Stein and Randall Terry could not be more ideologically opposed on most issues. You're doubling down on "third party or nothing" as if it doesn't matter whether someone votes for the person who wants to do something about climate change or the climate change denier (Stein vs. Terry).
You are essentially backing up what I'm saying- "I'll eat shit or salad for dinner. Doesn't matter as long as it isn't meat."
Well thats because you dont understand my thesis.
It aint about vote for a candidate, it is is about a vote against the current arrangement.
Arab Americans are facing similar misunderstandings but they came to this point from a different position.
American political discourse is apparently unable to understand this position, which is still telling about how the system works.
Someone has to win the presidency in order to make changes.
As of right now, only one of two people has a chance of being president in January: Donald Trump or Kamala Harris.
That is true whether you vote against one or both of them. No one is going to say "hey, a some people are voting for various third party candidates this year" and make changes. Do you know how I know this? Because it has not happened in 100 years. Not even when a single third party candidate had nearly 20% of the vote.
It didn't happen with Jill Stein last time or Gary Johnson or Ralph Nader or literally any other third party candidate you could name. Because they never change things beyond which of the main two parties gets to declare a winner.
That will certainly not change in a year when there is not a Ross Perot in the pack.
So, again, if that's your way of achieving change, you will not achieve change and should get out of the way.
Edit: Come to think of it, Ross Perot did effect change- namely he effected change by getting the two major parties to pass laws in the legislatures they controlled making it harder for third parties to get on the ballot. I'm guessing that's not what you want.
It is a generational fight... It tooks generations after FDR to get us to this shiti conditions.
You are spreading FUD btw... Which is a bad faith tactic.
If trump gets elected, it will be about the same as ehat happened last time. Aka more enshitification. Thats just where we are going.
If kamala gets elected, believe or not, same thing lol
I'm reading that there are between 4 and 5 generations per century and there hasn't been a significant third party presidential candidate that caused any effective changes in over a century.
How many generations is this going to take before there's change since 4-5 have yet to achieve it? Because the Earth isn't getting any cooler. I don't think we have more than a couple left. And I don't even know if those couple matter.
Except for immigrants, queer people, black people, Muslim people, and women. For those groups it is decidedly not the fucking same
But because the Democrats aren't going to reverse capitalism and it doesn't affect you personally, who gives a shit, right? Fuck everybody apart from you
A vote for 3rd party is a vote for Trump. You know that
some people value current empirical evidence over hearsay and 'common sense' when forming opinions I suppose
Not following...
Truly shocking...
Clearly.