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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

It's funny how people who "hate both parties" only ever wanna criticize the Left

[-] Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 months ago

It’s funny how people only interested in the “logic” of harm reduction don’t realize why this is the case. Like, no shit people will get more upset over a police officer killing innocent people over the random maniac with a gun killing innocent people.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

And you think it matters to a dead man the profession of his murderer?

[-] Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

This is about the topic of criticizing though. Are you honestly surprised the group who claim to be more moral than murderers are criticized more for murdering?

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No, but discussions of morality are for those privileged enough to be entirely out of harm's way. For the rest of us, there's harm reduction and threat assessment to consider.

Will criticizing police brutality lead to a safer community? Yes, because the people in charge of them will respond to protests, especially as they grow in size and ferocity in response to the situation and how dire it becomes.

Will criticizing the Democrats lead to a safer community? No, because the alternative political party ensures that to be a horrid decision.

[-] Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago

"Will criticizing the Democrats lead to a safer community? No, because the alternative political party ensures that to be a horrid decision."

As someone who would absolutely be targeted by another trump presidency, I'm not sure if this is the case. Sure, his policies are absolutely worse for me and people like me. But at least in rhetoric, democrats (the voters) would suddenly be against the things democrats (the party) are currently doing if trump were doing it instead, which mobilizes more people toward activism and helps protect those in need actively instead of passively if at all. Should the democrats (the party) slowly adopt republican policies (which seems to be the case), wouldn't it be better for the electorate not to be asleep at the wheel for 4 years leaving my community to die? If democrats (the voters) don't respond well to alarm bells for genocide, what makes you think they would respond well to alarm bells for transphobic bills that aren't veto'd, civil rights being walked back, project 2025 being implemented under Harris, and no protections even attempted to combat it? Stochastic terrorism from trump can happen even if he's not president and insurrection can happen even if he doesn't win. The real safety in my community comes from the community itself, not the politicians representing billionaires who give sweeping laws, but if liberals are fine with throwing Palestinians to the wolves today, it'll be the queer community tomorrow.

The queer community has and will fight like we have in the past should we need to regardless of who becomes president, and with or without the support of the masses. Sure, a lot of us might be killed, but that's the position the comfortable masses always put us in. The lack of criticism of the democrats right now among their base tells me a couple things: 1) the line about "sure democrats and republicans both have duds, but at least democrats hold their own accountable" is a lie and 2) shows me that throwing groups under the bus is okay so long as it maintains comfort and security- meaning we are headed for fascism whether it's blue or red since it seems like the entirety of the electorate are willing to sacrifice others for their own benefit. Our nation was born out of genocide, so it's no wonder how easy it is to vote for "lesser genocide" rather than protests, strikes, riots, and generally shutting down the country while helping our neighbors out materially. Either of the two main candidates winning is a testament to how hateful our country really is.

Consent has been manufactured with a false choice given to you by oligarchs and many have been fooled into thinking this is democracy. If you aren't willing to fight for your rights and the rights of your neighbors, they're as good as gone already regardless of who you check on the ballot.

this post was submitted on 27 Oct 2024
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