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[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them.

Good goddamn, Jefferson was wrong again. I bet this is what a lot of judges are thinking about when looking at J6 cases.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I also have this weird feeling that there was some assumption of gentleman's decorum back then even with those one disagreed with.

I appreciate his "forgive them, educate them, and move on" ideal. As if surely, once they've learned how things are, they will calm down! I wish it were that way.

But I think he'd be (im/de)pressed with just how low the bar has fallen when it comes to civil human behavior, general education esp. in civic affairs, and practical reasoning. There is no line too far anymore. There is no punishment for violating foundational social contracts or civil discourse.

One half is constantly flabbergasted that the other half keeps flagrantly violating the power of their office and saying "So what? I'm winning."

We're just so far past the point of reason now.

Edit: Also remember, Jefferson wrote this long before the Civil War. I believe his point in "forgive them and move on" was optimistically more in the interest of preserving the young Republic at all costs, rather than letting it crumble from the inside with internal feuds. (As is the fate of many rebellions)

[-] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Considering we had things like fist fight, a near fatal beating with a cane, etc on the floor of congress back then, I don't think much of their old timey decorum

[-] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 month ago

I don't think your assumption is accurate. They famously started shooting at a government because they taxed them a little more than they wanted to be taxed (to pay for a war we started).

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