95
What are the taboo subjects?
(leminal.space)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 04 Nov 2024
95 points (95.2% liked)
Asklemmy
44173 readers
1926 users here now
A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions
Search asklemmy ๐
If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!
- Open-ended question
- Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
- Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
- Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
- An actual topic of discussion
Looking for support?
Looking for a community?
- Lemmyverse: community search
- sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
- !lemmy411@lemmy.ca: a community for finding communities
~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
The funny thing is that a lot of those problems are better attributed to society/culture/education than genetics or biology, since it's people that vote/support other people. Unless you can somehow breed out psychopaths, and whatever makes people willing to sacrifice the collective for personal gain, from the human species, eugenics won't do shit.
The assignment was to state a topic. Not advocate for it.
Eugenics is the single stupidest idea in human history. To advocate for it now is to deny biology and history.
It relies on the same misunderstanding of evolution that underpins 'great replacement theory'.
The only place with eugenics in human history is agriculture. There were many genocides done using eugenics as an excuse with no clue of genetics, and you blame eugenics instead of the murderers.
We have gene editing now, so it's only a matter of cost when parents start customising their babies, which is a good thing because human variability will increase, making us as a species more resistant to unknown threats.
Eugenics isn't a stupid idea on the face of it, but then you look at where our dog breeding has gone...
The good news is that humans are pretty adaptable already. The only things that really definitely could sink us are our inability to react to very abstract, gradual problems and our tribalism.
Without dog breeding, dogs would be still be wolves.
It's pretty unclear how much of the breeding 30000BC-1500AD was deliberate, and how much was just a kind of selection as people decided to eat their naughtiest dog when famine came. I'm talking about the highly-targeted breeding that brought us the pug unable to breath and German shepherds with back legs that stick out wrong because it looks cool.
Also, wolves are pretty good at what they do, I'm not sure it's fair to say they're worse than dogs somehow.
Breeding unhealthy dogs could be called dysgenics. It's like breeding better slaves instead of better humans.
Wolves are good, evolution worked. Pet dogs are extra lives producing added value to themselves and their owners.
Yeah, well what I'm saying is we'd do that to ourselves too; we're not to be trusted with our own biology. Not yet, at least.
Eugenicists are the only people who should be barred from reproduction tbh
I agree with you but only on Eugenics being automatically downvoted. Look, I did it!