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He was doing worse, wasn't he?
I think we woulda had our cheeks clapped either way.
The only way to win was going full throttle progressive and saying fuck you to Israel. Such an anti establishment display would have rivalled people's (idiotic) perception of Trump. But instead she spent the last 3 months courting Republicans. Losing strat from the get-go.
Looking at exit polls, people were far more concerned with the economy than anything else. I don't think Israel mattered much to average people. Biden/Harris got fucked with pandemic inflation and people are too dumb to realize it had nothing to do with them. And that will be further reinforced because inflation is under control now so Trump will look great having done nothing whatsoever.
This was totally the fault of Democrats. They are the reason they lost. Blaming anyone else or acting like it was just a coincidence is nothing more than denying reality. Israel and the Cheney parade definitely played a role. The negative ads targeting progressives like Jill Stein played a role. Kamala hiding from progressive networks that would ask real questions played a role. The Democratic party has become nothing more than a dysfunctional corporate bureaucracy that thinks they can convince everyone that shit is gold.
All that sounds like your subjective view not based on data. Not saying the DNC is perfect by any means, but it's clear the economy was by far the #1 issue in this election. I mentioned exit polls earlier, and also Trump was way up compared to 2020 even in extremely rural counties. Israel, Cheney, Stein, etc have nothing to do with that.
It isn't subjective. Voters will tell you why they didn't turn out or voted third party. The economy is important, but Harris turning to Mark Cuban to push establishment messaging wasn't a good selling point either.
Sure seems like it
exactly. I think whoever ended up as the D candidate was going to take the blame for the massive pandemic inflation. They were destined for failure from the beginning.
I meant it more as neither Joe nor Kamala had it in em to rally a win because they kept pushing the wrong issues and disenfranchising voters.
They could have distanced themselves from the current administration though. They could have acknowledged that inflation has fucked most people, and be far more direct about addressing it than vague price gouging investigations that should be happening now. They could have come out in favor of any and every union striking. They could have had policies to guarantee profit sharing or granting equity. They could have made the totally empty promise of fighting for main street and not wall street.
Bruh if you're still giving a shit about what any pre-election polls were saying after they've repeatedly failed to predict so many elections I don't know what to tell you.
I said it before he stepped down- America is too misogynist and racist to vote in Harris. Even the economic left. Would Biden have done better? I can't say. But I do think it's pretty damning that Harris didn't even win the popular vote like Biden and Hillary did.
Biden couldn't even speak a coherent paragraph this time.
Polls are good for gauging general sentiment. If you're expecting them to accurately predict results in the sort of tight races this US has then you'll have a bad time.
Are they even good at gauging general sentiment though?
I think they're fine at that. Shows ups and downs and gives you some general view. Not sure how you'd gauge it otherwise.
Trump got same amount of votes as last time, but Harris got 14m less. So congrats, Democrats have fucked themselves over, yet again! Or you hate women or you hate PoC.
Sad truth. But numbers don't lie.
On one hand, I feel sorry for you Americans, but majority of you have chose this... What a joke.
I'm not an American
Fair enough. You get to watch the show like me.