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Bernie Would Have Won
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He should found a new party based on his moral and ethical values. First, take over Vermont government, after that let's see. He's the only politician I know whou could pull this one in the American scene. He's already independent and representing much more than Vermont.
I'm down, but he's just so old. With his only heir apparent being AOC. People don't like her nearly as much despite basically identical policy proposals. I wonder why?
I've said this before but at this point I think our only hope is the destruction of the Republican party so Democrats are the new conservatives. This way a progressive party could arise.
Or get rid of first past the post voting and the electoral college. But that seems harder somehow.
Or, honestly, this is the end and there is no hope left.
AOC voted to protect the rail corporations from the union strike.
This is why he should do it now. It's his ideas the ones founding the party, not him. This is still one right moment, the Democrats are in crisis and the people opposed to Trump feel strayed. Meanwhile, the Republican party is raving on their victory, but we all know Trump will fuck it up as soon as he is in charge the next year, leaving people disenchanted.
You don't really have this problem when you vote for political parties instead of presidents.
We already have like 5 more. Why wouldn't he join greens or communists or peace and freedom or another?
I don't get it. He seems to understand the dems will never be a working-class party. Why's he still in there instead of an actual socialist org like the PSL or FRSO?
Fear for his life, probably. He seems to be popular enough to give those parties a momentum that would make him a target of both the capitalist parties.
Black Panther party members — including its leader — were killed by the FBI. A genuine threat to capitalist rule will naturally have to face these threats.
If one of those aligns with his political views, maybe. That doesn't mean he will be allowed to steer that particular political party; and I think that's why.
Because Greens take insane amounts of donations from right wing donors, don't have any issues getting investments in big oil, don't do anything outside of election years, have hardly any positions in actual government (4 mayors, 17 council board members across states and not even all of them are actually are, that's being generous). The Green Party in its current state is quite literally a scam and should not be supported.
The other ones you mentioned are fine.
Sounds like you're just spewing propaganda from the Dems
The Green Party having no political candidates in meaningful elected positions is propaganda?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Green_politicians_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States
Okay.
https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/green-party-of-the-us/C00370221/donors/2024
Unrelated, just more mega donors with names https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20240618164/meet-the-10-biggest-megadonors-in-the-2024-election-cycle-so-far
And forgive me for thinking that the Leader of the Green Party should probably not have investments in the oil industry and Home Depot, index/retirement fund or not. If I can reallocate my inherited investments, the leader of the Green Party can too.
The open secret link is just showing individuals that have donated more than $200, and the morningstar link doesn't mention the green party at all.
Yes, I said the morningstar link was unrelated
I'm not sure why you included it then. The open secrets link makes me think you wanted to prove
But I really can't confirm anything just based on some peoples' names.
Dude. US greens are a straight up lie.