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[-] deus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

As far as I'm aware, the big "problem" with Mastodon (and the Fediverse as a whole) is that you have to choose an instance to join. It's an aditional step that mainstream social media does not have and it's already enough to push regular people away. It's kinda like trying to convince a Windows user to jump ship to Linux, by the time you begin explaining what a distro is you've already lost them.

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago

Like I said in my comment tho. When I downloaded the app it automatically chose for me. I just made an account there and boom.

[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So you didn’t get the choice at all? I guess people who sign up this way are going to be really confused why they can’t follow some accounts their friends can.

[-] JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

You can choose. But you don't have to.

The official Mastodon app has a box where you can pick one out of several hard-coded instances. It defaults to mastodon.social. You can pick a different instance if you want to. But you can also ignore it, scroll past it and let yourself be conveniently railroaded to mastodon.social without even knowing what an instance is.

[-] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 1 points 1 month ago

Better than no one having the ability to follow that person because a centrally controlled social media banned them.

[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

But worse than anyone being able to follow that person because they’re using a platform where moderation is separate from identity, as in AtProto.

[-] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 1 points 1 month ago

You are misrepresenting it. You would still run into this issue. Moderation being separate doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You will still not be able to follow someone your friends follow because your moderation service banned then.

[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

You can choose a different moderation service. That’s the point.

[-] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 1 points 1 month ago

And you can choose a different instance on ActivityPub.

[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That choice is tied to your identity and can’t be easily changed later, which is what I’m complaining about.

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

Yes the choose was there but it automatically was filled with a default instance.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Is that helpful though? Isn't that the same as everyone registering at Lemmy.world?

[-] JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

If you've never in your live chosen anything that has to do with IT, if all you know is centralised, monolithic silos, then you can't be expected to first choose one out of literal dozens of microblogging projects in the Fediverse and then one out of dozens, hundreds or thousands of instances.

The Fediverse would be a whole lot smaller if not all newbies who didn't come from Reddit were railroaded hard to mastodon.social. Oh, and Lemmy would be a whole lot smaller without Redditors having been railroaded first to lemmy.ml and now to lemmy.world.

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

I feel with mastodon it's different because instances don't host communities to subscribe to. Just people to follow

[-] 3draven@mtdn.anyqn.com 1 points 1 month ago

@secret300 @fediverse @can There are bots that cross-post posts, they actually implement groups.

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

Oh neat I didn't know that.

this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2024
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