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submitted 1 month ago by datavoid@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I am currently using a legitimate copy of Windows 11, on the latest version. Just started getting this message after the latest update.

Considering I already have Linux and Mac as alternatives, if they actually pull my license they will just lose a lifelong customer. Their business decisions truly boggle the mind...

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[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

This is the way.

Whenever I installed another operating system (newer Linux or long time ago when dual booting to Windows), I always unplugged the older drive physically. Then installed it and plugged it back. This way none of the OS changes anything on the others boot system. And I choose to boot the drive from UEFI boot menu.

[-] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 1 points 1 month ago

@thingsiplay @metaStatic Normally I use grub on one drive to launch all of the OS's from a boot menu.

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago

Windows can interfere with grub, or any other OS can for that matter. I use an alternative boot system than grub, which is much more simple. When I install a new operating system as described before, then each operating system has its own boot menu and entries (like multiple Linux Kernels per OS or other configurations).

[-] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 0 points 1 month ago

@thingsiplay Again, I've been doing this for many years without problems. If it's interfering it's most likely operator error.

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago

No. There are cases which is an error of the operating system, not the operator. Windows in example did that recently (not my machine, I do not use Windows) by ruining grub. Saying it was a bug, but we believe its an attempt of Microsoft ruining grub with intention.

Just because you did not have any problems does not mean its the optimal and easiest way. Also having all operating systems and multiple Kernels and options to boot from for every OS in one boot menu is a mess. I don't want that ever again. Right now I have 5 entries for only one OS. Imagine adding Windows or another OS to it.

Its much easier and cleaner to separate each OS to its own menu, with the way I described earlier. Also much easier to replace an OS this way or make modifications.

[-] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 0 points 1 month ago

@thingsiplay Ok well I've been doing this for as long as Grub has been a thing (since retiring lilo) without an issue, so not sure why it is a problem for someone you know but I'm going to stick with probably operator error.

[-] Feyd@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

There have been plenty of cases of windows messing up boot configuration if dual boot over the years, though it's pretty rare more recently. The last one was only a few months ago and affected systems using secure boot https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-update-breaks-linux-dual-boot-but-there-is-a-fix-for-some-users/

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago

You keep ignoring what I'm saying...

[-] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 0 points 1 month ago

@thingsiplay I'm not ignoring, I am DISAGREEING, sorry if you're having a difficult time making that distinction.

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