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[-] spector@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

To these young men, society teaches them that they are fault because of the patriarchy

Women have lost their way and need to be put back in the kitchen. The gays have gotten to much freedom to be flamboyant and they're destroying decency and indoctrinating children. The blacks are getting too uppity, they need a knee on the neck. Minorities have gotten too much and need mass deportations now.

But yeah cis hetero young men get the blame for everything.

By your reasoning, women, LGBT+, minorities are all justified in becoming extremists. Yet the only demographic is leading way on this. Now I'm sure you'll feedback loop your logic to take it as young men getting all the blame.

[-] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

But yeah cis hetero young men get the blame for everything.

Where in my response did I imply they get the blame for everything? Jesus man, at least be mildly charitable when you interpret my responses.

Women have lost their way and need to be put back in the kitchen. The gays have gotten to much freedom to be flamboyant and they’re destroying decency and indoctrinating children. The blacks are getting too uppity, they need a knee on the neck. Minorities have gotten too much and need mass deportations now.

I understand this rhetoric gets used. I'm trying to explain why.

To these young men, they've been told that they have privilege, but haven't been truly explained what that means. It leads them to believe people are telling them they're already doing well, even if they aren't. Grifters take advantage of that, and use the common tactic of fascist rhetoric, which is to create a false past where everything was better, and offer these young men a simple solution to their problems: "taking back" the rights/freedoms/abilities/access that they "once had."

They might hold abhorrent viewpoints, and for the final time, I don't endorse or defend any of them, but they don't enjoy inflicting pain, or even think that they are in the first place

I may have worded my responses in a much more convoluted way than intended, and for that I apologize. My only point in this conversation, far from defending their viewpoints or trying to pull a "let's look at all sides" argument, is simply that while they might have been propagandized to enough, to the point they believe false things about reality, they don't enjoy, or want to inflict pain. They simply want society to right the "wrongs" they've experienced, but don't understand what the root cause is of their pain.

I am specifically, solely trying to make the case that while their actions may end up causing harm, they don't enjoy causing harm in itself. That is all.

this post was submitted on 13 Nov 2024
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