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Yeah yeah I'm sure they will do all sorts of gasping and then confirm him anyway. Despite what they say the lot of them are just Trump sycophants at this point.
You've seen how many people have railed against Trump only to turn right back around and toss his salad. Trump has dirt on these people, like mutually assured destruction level dirt.
The "dirt" is not being re-elected because they dare question Trump.
That's what is ridiculous to me. The consequences are literally that they might lose their job. Yeah it sucks for them a little bit, but the alternative is destroying our fucking country. It's amazing how many of them choose to bend the knee time and time again.
I believe the calculus is "A even more extreme MAGA diehard will take my place."
Which is 100% true.
Still extremely self-serving, but kinda reasonable in a Machiavellian way.
Are we spinning the actions of fascists as some sort of secret protection of democracy now? Because what you just said sounds crazy to me. 100% of so called reasonable Republicans have already left the party. The people who remain are corrupt without exception.
What's the difference between MTG and, say, any of the other Republicans that vote pretty much in kock-step with her on any important issue but aren't as blatantly loud and dumb except worse news bites?
No, it's worse than that. It's "go to prison" level shit.
Call your Senators, give them your name, zip code, and briefly tell them you oppose these noms. It DOES make a difference! Democracy doesn't stop at the ballot box, it has to be fought for
Unless you live in a red state, it doesn’t matter. It requires a simple majority to confirm.
It does matter if you want to counter the talking heads all saying the election loss is because of progressives. Dem senators need to hear another voice than that and be pushed to not roll over like the special counsel
If our politicians require coaxing to defend democracy then we've already lost it.
Bingo!
But what’s been lost can always be found.
In tatters?
Mate up until I saw the election results, I associated myself with moderate conservatives. After the election, I’m trying to reconcile with the fact that my county, my state, and my government elected Trump again.
Like, the part of me that wants to claim conservative fully supports your right to vote whoever you think is right.
But we voted him out in 2020?
Like how do you vote for someone who incited an insurrection?
How do you vote for someone who nominated a judge to the Supreme Court and then tried to waive the background check? Pick someone else on the shortlist or let the process prove him innocent.
How do you vote for someone who nominated a judge wjth so little federal court experience to the Supreme Court?
How do you vote for someone who nominated someone who nominated Aileen Cannon? She has made a mockery of the legal system.
How do you nominate someone with so many scandals you can’t even remember all of them? And is guilty of at least some of those through a court of law?
How do you vote for someone with which there is picture proof of him being friendly on multiple occasions with a pedophile/sex trafficker?
And yes, I’ve never been a CHRISTIAN conservative because I’m not Christian. But what the fuck are they trying to conserve? Off the top of my head, he is trying to topple the rule of law, precedence, trying to bypass the senate confirmation process, already ignored the norm by not welcoming Biden in 2020? He tried to dismantle the post office ffs.
His choices directly led to Dobbs. If you are against abortion, don’t get one. It was that fucking simple. Now, I have others beliefs hoisted upon me. What happened to separation of church and state? What happened to the American value of freedom of religion?
Did they not take the same civics class I took in high school? Do they not have brains? Like what the fuck is going on here that I don’t understand. 47 already showed us what kind of disaster he was as 45. Does nobody remember how he handled COVID?
Like how can I be an independent conservative when so many of my “fellow” conservatives voted for the antithesis of the status quo?
Yes, I get that we shouldn’t be afraid to challenge the status quo where needed but there is almost literally no benefit to anyone by his decisions. Shouldn’t the government make the country better and not worse? Like he is taking us into the past with no improvement
You’re only incorrect on one point: he’s not taking us into the past. There has never been a time in the past that was comparable to the future he’s dumping us into.
The problem is that he’s spread such a large volume of misinformation that people select bits of it that THEY want to believe and accept those lies as truth while dismissing the rest.
One of the lies is that he’s returning America to how it was in some mythical golden age. That’s not where he’s taking it at all. That lie just gets buried under the others.
I get that. I was just trying to have a positive outlook
That was the whole of his last administration.
"What he's done is just awful. It must stop. This is the last time." For four years.
I'm just going to spend the next four years treating it like comedy. Nothing else I can do until the mid terms.