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Speaking as a Canadian, I'm confused. If you boot out all the undocumented, where are you going to find the migrant workers to do all the unpleasant, if not downright dangerous jobs? And many of those are in red states. What does that leave? The convict workforce? I guess that is huge in the US.
We have migrant workers here too. They come on temporary visas, so they are technically documented. But the whole sector is rife with discrimination and human rights violations regardless.
The children yearn for the mines.
This. Defunding education, removing social safety nets, and scaling back labour laws all will force whole families of low income workers to replace the migrant workers for the same or worse pay.
Absolutely. My comment was just a quip/ meme, but I do worry that what you laid out is their goal.
They have indicated in Project 2025 that they plan to rollback various safety nets. Unfortunately, the US is already lacking in that.
Oh! I got the meme! I also preferred it when it was clearly a joke, not a call to child labour.
He'll be focusing on undocumented folks in blue states, first, for sure. But economists are already predicting skyrocketing grocery prices as labor scarcity is forcibly introduced by these deportations, either way.
My guess, he focuses purely on "shock and awe" by targeting blue cities with workplace raids rather than just going to literally every farm in the south.
In my blue state, they’d have to use purely federal resources. Local law enforcement is not required to cooperate
Spoiler for you: they'll comply and cooperate. Police aren't known as bastions and liberal policies and agendas. They're overwhelming MAGAts
The police are not your friends
Police are just as lazy as anyone else. While there will be a few turncoats, I’d expect them to generally go along with “you can snub a fed and do nothing”
ICE and DEA are probably in every state already.
I’m sure they are in every state, and can do enough to make headlines, continue stoking outrage. However they don’t have the manpower to actually take it seriously, or to investigate beyond what big name they want to use for propaganda
I know. The headlines are all 47 will care about. As is tradition.
Yup.
Getting rid of a ton of cheap labor is not good for an economy.
Red states will suffer more.
They'll ask for more federal funds to support them than they already do.
Their daddy in the big seat will give it to them.
Just more of our money going to a bunch of ignorant/racist fools who can't learn to vote more intelligently.
In a roundabout way.. If they get the handouts, they will see trump as the saviour. The fact he caused the issues are irrelevant or that it costs something else so they can get their trump food stamps...
It doesn't matter how badly this administration fails. At the end of 4 years they'll find a way to blame Democrats and praise Trump, even though that makes no sense because their team is in total control.
But that's the nature of a cult.
A migrant worker is not undocumented. Many are here in a legitimate work visa and it’s heavily used in farming.
Undocumented aliens comprise several subgroups and I suppose you can say “I really meant ….”.
For example the most common illegal is a formerly legal visiting student or worker who overstays their visa. And as you said, this is an area subject to human rights violation and discrimination: an employer can treat someone as poorly as they want, when someone is subject to deportation if they lose their job
Step 1: be rich
Step 2: bribe the government to do your bidding
Step 3: decimate the workforce of your competitors
Step 4: profit, buy out competition, become "too big to fail"
They will use the newly incarcerated immigrants as slave labor as apportioned by the 13th amendment.
Replaced by forced labor.
Oh that’s where the queers and the democrats come in. Specifically we will be coming in chains
Likely a food shortage, if not an actual famine. It's fucking stupid.
That'll go nicely with the voluntary pandemics.
Did you expect anything different?
Don’t worry, I’m sure he has a concept of a plan for that…or he didn’t bother thinking about it yet because he’s so stupid he can’t think more than a single step ahead for anything.