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Kremlin says hypersonic missile strike on Ukraine was a warning to the west

The Kremlin said on Friday that a strike on Ukraine using a newly developed hypersonic ballistic missile was designed to warn the west that Moscow will respond to moves by the US and the UK to let Kyiv strike Russia with their missiles.

According to Agence France-Presse (AFP), the Kremlin spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, was speaking a day after Russian president, Vladimir Putin, said Moscow had fired the new missile – the Oreshnik or ‘hazel tree’- at a Ukrainian military facility.

Peskov said Russia had not been obliged to warn the US about the strike, but had informed the US 30 minutes before the launch anyway. Putin remained open to dialogue, Peskov said.

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[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

Any time you end a thought with “so therefore threatening nuclear holocaust is justified” you’re the bad guys.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

America, the only country ever to drop nukes on two cities full of people as a terror tactic, has a nuclear first strike policy and is therefore threatening the entire world with nuclear holocaust at all times. I agree, we're the bad guys.

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

During WWII, America shocked the world when they revealed their nuclear capacity by dropping not one, but two atomic bombs on strictly civilian targets. Since then, they have maintained a first strike policy, meaning, their plans for their nuclear arsenal are not defensive, but aggressive and the highest form of escalation.

During the Korean War, Dugless MacArthur asked the joint chiefs of staff for approval to use nuclear weapons on China, to the tune of 30, to 50 nuclear strikes. They approved. MacArthur's goal was to create a radioactive no-mans land across Russia and China to act as a buffer zone between after the war was "won".

During the JFK Administration, they drew up plans for nuclear first strike against the Soviet Union if conflict in Berlin turned violent.

The Nixon administration drew up plans to drop nuclear bombs on North Vietnam.

Just this week, news broke that the Biden administration is considering giving Ukraine nukes. "Several officials even suggested that Mr. Biden could return nuclear weapons to Ukraine that were taken from it after the fall of the Soviet Union." You'll tell me this is strictly defensive, then I beg you to consider reading why the Soviet Union was giving Cuba nuclear weapons during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The only place threatening a Nuclear Holocaust is the United States. They remain today the only country on earth to have dropped not one, but two atomic bombs on war targets (read civilian populations).

[-] FromPieces@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 month ago

There were some anecdotes I remember reading (that I'd really appreciate some sources on, if ever I get around to investigating) about how the Soviet Union during the Cold War maintained a steely eyed, ice cold resolve as the US was doing everything they could to spark a nuclear war. Pieces I remember are times the US flew bombers at Moscow, watching for Soviet reaction, hoping to find out the range ability of Soviet radar.

And then the Cuban Missile Crisis of course

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago

The fact that you don't understand how idiotic that statement is says volumes about you. Imagine for a second what would happened if Russia started lobbing missiles into Florida from Cuba. Oh wait, we don't have to imagine we know exactly what would happen. Killer clowns like you are gonna be the reason our civilization ends.

[-] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

in this scenario, does florida invade cuba first?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

Burgerland already occupies part of Cuban territory, so the invasion is just frozen at this point.

[-] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Burgerland

🤣

[-] Grapho@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

The USA literally has a torture camp in Cuba with admittedly innocent people being held for life.

I swear to god Americans know more about the Marvel movies than about their fucking state.

[-] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 month ago

apologies for not exactly spelling it out for you - is the US actively bombing innocent cubans? I get it, there's a torture camp- wish it didn't exist. analogies don't have to be perfect.

[-] Grapho@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

You're literally the one nitpicking the analogy lmao.

Anyway, keep up the cope, gringo. Enjoy your cost of living crisis while yall froth at the mouth about Raytheon-appointed scapegoat.

[-] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 month ago

You’re literally the one nitpicking the analogy lmao.

you literally started it ¯_(ツ)_/¯ - apologies for not phrasing it properly, English is not my first language.

Enjoy your cost of living crisis

que miedo 😱

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