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How decentralized is Bluesky really?
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this post was submitted on 22 Nov 2024
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if there is, I haven't seen any. ive been using it quite a bit. its probably like most social media where if you don't engage with that kind of content, it doesn't show it to you.
"People have been saying"
I love that absolutely meaningless statement.
Thats not really what happens, unless you're so toxic that old-twitter would actually ban you.
Bsky has a "nuclear block", that essentially removes you and the target from even existing on the version of the site each other see. If you're ok with just talking to folk who are on your side of a "no, shutup" line, like "trans women are women" or "trans is a mental disorder" you'll be fine.
The issue is that a bunch of folk who abscribe to the second apparently just want to troll the first, so they get blocked by their targets, have no fun, and then complain to reporters still on twitter.
"They" don't have that. Most labellers are user made and people can subscribe to them or not.
The implementation details matter less than how it affects the culture.
I do think it matters a lot whether it's a thing the app offers natively to everybody or something certain users have implemented on their own and that other users can choose to use or not. You don't blame the contents of a mod on the game itself, do you?
If there's a widely used mod that makes the game worse, that's a good reason to not play the game. It doesn't matter who made the mod. Using the mod (e.g. an aim bot in a shooter game) is toxic user behavior and if the game ops tolerate it, they deserve blame too.
Is it "widely used"? An aim bot directly affects everybody else, actively making the game worse. This only affects a small number of people who choose to opt-in and trust the labeller's opinion. I can't even find that labeller and I learnt about it from you. And again, it's not BSky that offers the labeller - that IS an important distinction.
No I don't think the distinction matters. Twitter sucks because it's full of Nazis. It's irrelevant that Twitter doesn't supply the Nazis itself. The culture that a platform fosters is part of the platform.
As for the visibility of the labelling on bsky, idk, I guess I'll take your word for it. It had sounded like a built in feature that was visible to everyone, but ok, maybe not.
And yet, everybody stayed until the Muskrat took over. Because until then it wasn't the platform telling people to be nazis and nazis were a nuisance but a minority - as are people who falsely accuse scientists of being anti-science on BSky. That's exactly what I'm saying.
If the label appears on your profile for everyone to see without further info then it's truth value is thrown away. IDK how big a problem it really is on bsky now though. The other guy says it is, you seem to think the opposite, I don't care enough to look into it further.
If Twitter went Nazi post-Musk while it's software stayed about the same, that shows that management really does shoulder blame.
It doesn't appear for everyone to see.
I feel like we're talking past each other and it's too exhausting to try and get across what I'm saying. Have a pleasant day.
Every user of the extension then, which is apparently a lot of users, enough to affect the site culture, if the other guy's report reflects reality.
The way some moderation lists (ban/labeling) work is algorithmic.
You can actually host one of these services yourself!
I tried to look this up but I couldn't find much. The "worst" I found was this:
Where are you reading that people are saying that it's worse than twitter? Is it right wing people that are saying that because they put emphasis on inclusivity and respect?
That’s exactly what it is. The trolls and bot runners and MAGA chuds are pissed that we can completely prevent them from interacting with us there. And with curated blocklists it doesn’t even require work for the average user.
They can come to bsky but they’ll just be screaming at each other while the rest of us talk about cool stuff.
It’s one of the best features of bsky!
Lists, feeds, starter packs, and moderation tools that work, have all led to a very vibrant and engaging social media experience!
The user base isn’t afraid of quickly dealing with antisocial behavior.
You can tell which way your media outlets position themselves by how they report on this aspect of bsky. Egalitarians will cast it in a positive light, while Elitists will cast it in a negative light.
IMO it is THE killer feature, and it’s why Bluesky is going to win this round of the internet wars.
If that makes bluesky bad, lemmy should get an award for how terrible it is
Ok, Trump. Thanks for the story.
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