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Now that we have final numbers. It appears that Harris had all the white & black support she needed for an EC victory. But Trump outright flipping Latino men and making huge gains with Latino women seems to have made all the difference.

What do you think?

First image is 2024, second is 2020.

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[-] Revonult@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

White people voting for the right is the problem. Like how can we go on here and blame Latinos for shifting when such a high percentage of white people voted for him? Especially when you factor in the population size and not just % left or right.

I am ashamed of my peers.

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, only around 2-3% of the white voters switching Dem would make up for the extra Latinos voting for Trump. On the other hand, blaming the voter instead of candidate is missing the point.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Less white people voted for trump in 24 though. The Latino bit is concerning because Democrats believed they had a demographic inevitability, and that appears to not be the case.

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It shouldn't be concerning, it should be enlightening.

But it won't be. Not for the party leadership.

Over the past 40 years they've gone from being the champion of blue collar and union workers nationwide, and being able to take those votes for granted...to having the rust belt become the biggest swing region in the country (which their opponent swept this month). Did they take this as a wake up call and do more for the blue collar voters to win their loyalty back?

Nah, they just blame them and talk down to them, and tell them they're too stupid to know what's best for them.

In that same time frame, they were seen as abandoning the blue collar worker to court the minority vote, talking their efforts at helping factory workers and turning them toward helping minorities in race and gender. While they were actually doing this they did indeed appear to gain that loyalty at the ballot box. Of course once they had it, they felt no need to keep up the good work for these people and have slowly become a party who does nothing for anyone, and runs on a platform of essentially admitting they do nothing, but that their inaction is better than the other side, so they should still be owed votes.

Once again, this isn't working out for them, and once again, rather than take it as a rejection of what they're doing, no...it's the voters who are wrong.

I despise the GOP as much as any reasonable person, and I firmly believe that many of their voters won't like what they voted for once they start to get it...but there's no denying that the GOP has a message, goals, and demonstrable progress toward them. And to counter that....the Democrats have..."I think things are good and I wouldn't change anything. You should vote for me because I'm not MAGA aligned, and if you don't, it's your fault not mine."

Arrogance is off-putting, and it appears it's going to take at least a half century for the Democrats to figure that out.

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