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submitted 4 weeks ago by bpt11@sh.itjust.works to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I can’t use them because I can’t convince anybody to switch with me. I talk to most people on discord and I’d rather move to using Matrix, but I can’t convince any of my friends or family or anyone I know to use anything else.

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[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I use XMPP whenever possible. Requires many fewer resources to run on just about any hardware & I can hand out accounts if needed.

I don’t care for the centralized or de facto centralized alternatives. I regret along with my uncle convincing family onto Signal several years ago.

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Why do you regret convincing your family to use signal? Is it because you wish you got them to use xmpp instead?

[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

I would like to lose the Android phone soon. Signal will not work without an Android/iOS primary device.

But also… Signal requires a phone number for signup where a lot of countries require a passport to get a SIM (unique identifier that is easy to track you). The service is centralized so there is no sort of self-hosting option. There really aren’t alternative clients (not counting mere forks) you can rely on (this helps with the double ratchet encryption of clients with XMPP & Matrix losing keys) unless you go the gateway/bridge route—where the Electron desktop client is pure ass cheeks. Historically they have a big gap in commit history—we can assume there was some sort of CIA/FBI plant. They refuse to use a self-hostable MQTT/XMPP/UnifiedPush option for notifications meaning that the notification data timestamps always flow thru Google & Apple servers. And I am still salty the mobile clients removed SMS support which made it so easy to recommend to family in the first place.

this post was submitted on 29 Nov 2024
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