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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 129 points 2 weeks ago

More Americans die every year because of lack of access to medical care than from all of our wars combined.

[-] OmegaMan@lemmings.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Can I get a source on this? This sounds like a wild figure!

EDIT: Read the below comments. Wether it's true or not... Still an unacceptable amount of preventable deaths. We have to do better.

[-] sus@programming.dev 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Actual research finds that annual "deaths caused due to lack of insurance" is around 40-50 thousand (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2775760/)

and "if the usa had healthcare as good as france, 101 thousand annual deaths would be prevented" (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-deaths-rankings-idUSN0765165020080108/)

as for war deaths, the ~100 thousand barrier is breached when all wars back to the korean war (1950-1953) are included. Then world war 2 is massively over

so the literal truth of the original statement is that it's maybe mostly correct if you consider "our wars" to only be wars that the usa played a key role in starting, and only count the last century, but false if not

(eg. the civil war would totally blow the number out of the water, world war 2 would totally blow the number out of the water, and with the unpopular vietnam war it would depend on what exactly your standards of "lack of access to medical care" are)

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

You're only considering people without health insurance, not people who have it, but are denied coverage, or can't afford it even with coverage.

[-] sus@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago

if you totally ignore the second study, sure

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

People without health insurance are still victims of our broken health system.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

3000 a day from heart disease

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Actual research finds that annual “deaths caused due to lack of insurance” is around 40-50 thousand

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