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Right wing terrorism in action.
It's shitty that the guilty party chose death by cop rather than face trial. It would be good to get these fuckers on court TV with all their dirty laundry to boot.
Pull the religion into it, he's a Christian terrorist.
A Zealot of Christ.
I can't believe how unwilling people are to admit that ------ianity is complicit in all these crimes.
Obviously, this is what Jesus wanted. "I come to bring a sword" and all that.
You'd think that decent people would realize that it's time to set the hateful fairy tales aside and actually do the work of being decent humans, but no.
Not Christian and not defending organized religion in any way, but most of the stuff Jesus supposedly said was peaceful and about accepting people no matter who they are. It was just twisted over the years to be something other than that. The believable stuff about Jesus makes me assume he would be accepting (maybe not like it, but accepting of it) of LGBTQ+ people. Old testament shit is a whole other thing though.
This is a recent reinterpretation of Jesus.
He had plenty to say about who he was going to punish, the extent and type of pain he was going to inflict, etc.
Traditionally, it was Mary who was the softie.
Do you have sources? Because the canonical New Testament says otherwise. If anything, violent Jesus is the new thing.
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/the-uncomfortable-subject-jesus-addressed-more-than-anyone-else/
https://historyofchristiantheology.com/commentary/preliminary-overview/fear-and-religion/
I think a lot of Christians misunderstand hell and damnation, probably because of the imagery used in the Bible. The important thing to take away is that it's a state of guilt and regret (i.e. internal torment), not one of active punishment (external torment). But then we have depictions, such as Dante's Divine Comedy, where there are devils and fire and whips and whatnot going on to actively torture and punish sinners.
But that's not the real problem, the problem is religious leaders stirring people up and preying on their fear to encourage devotion.
So I don't think it's the fault of religions themselves, but the various leaders that rile people up. Just like I rarely blame political ideologies, but instead the leaders that twist them for their own purposes. There are certainly genuinely evil ideologies and perhaps religions, but the problem is with how people use them, not the ideologies themselves. For example, Buddhism is widely recognized as being a peaceful religion, yet it has been used to justify violence despite violence being expressly against its tenets.
So my contention isn't with religion or any given ideology (with a few exceptions), it's worth extremists.
There is a difference between judging people in life and them being judged in death.
According to Jesus, we'll all be judged, but it is to be done by God, not by us. If we deserve salvation, fine. If we deserve damnation, OK. However, people living on earth should not be putting their judgements on others.