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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by penquin@lemm.ee to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Even gamers nexus' Steve today said that they're about to start doing Linux games performance testing soon. It's happening, y'all, the year of the Linux desktop is upon us. ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ

Edit: just wanted to clarify that Steve from GN didn't precisely say they're starting to test soon, he said they will start WHEN the steam OS releases and is adopted. Sorry about that.

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[-] pizza_the_hutt@sh.itjust.works 106 points 1 week ago

IMO, no one should be playing games with kernel level anticheat. There is no way I would let any big gaming company have that level of control over my PC. It's a security nightmare.

I wonder if Valve will eventually offer their own system of checks similar to Google Play Integrity? I don't think I'd care for it since it's an invasion of personal choice on a device that you own, but for people who want to play competitive games with cheating problems, running a partition with integrity checking seems a fair trade.

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Yeah you can do most of that server side but they don't want to pay for it. Why pay when your players let you coop their machine for free or even better yet pay you for the privilege. Also player run dedicated servers would fix all of this. Don't like the cheaters movement servers. Own the server ban them. We had this working just fine in the 90s.

[-] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

I would imagine it wasn't that large scale back then. I wasn't in the 90s so I wouldn't know. But some games with player servers are filled with extremely triggering names and env, if you know what I mean. I'd rather prefer the current matchmaking.

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The tick was to find your sever. With Quake 2 and Team Fortress Classic. You would find a server that meshed with the community that fit you and you would go to that server. You got to know the players that would come back over and over. It was a micro community in the larger community of the game. You became a regular sometimes were even giving mod rights very much like a lemmy community. Yeah there were asshats just like there is on here but you just don't engage with them.

Hell back when quake 2 was in heat.net we would just hang out and chat in the lobby. When playing mechwarrior 2 they had clan websites and we would battle other clans in brackets. I started in that clan by just random showing up in that lobby and someone was nice and taught me how to account for lag when targeting other mechs.

It takes a little more work to find or create your community but once you do it's so much better than the company directed dull experience. Stuff like surf servers in counterstrike or bombing run basketball servers in unreal tournament would not exist without player controlled dedicated servers.

Also scale didn't mater since it was decentralized like lemmy is. The company didn't have that much control of what players did with their severs. That's what this is what this is all about control. They want to make sure you see what they want you to see to buy that cosmetic to feel fomo. To play how they want you to play. So emergent gameplay almost never happens anymore.

[-] xavier666@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

If it's an immutable system, it should be easier to ensure system integrity IMO.

[-] plant_based_monero@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

If gamers were buying in their best interest nintendo would be bankrupt, there is what gamers should do and there is the real world. The sad reality is that only the low end gamers care about vanguard and they aren’t paying the bills in riot

[-] Ptsf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I wouldn't say it has anything to do with the financial affluence of the gamer, but I agree with you that the vast vast majority of gamers simply do not care. Like with a lot of things, that same majority would be better off if they did.

[-] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

sadly theres a line between shouldn't and how the market responds to it. Regardless of the fact, it is a hurdle, and the reason why not all of the top games on the concurrent player list on steam is playable on SteamOS, whether one likes it or not.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

After that huge "Salt Typhoon" hack against major telecoms, you'd think people would take "security nightmare" a little more seriously!

Truth is though, your average Valorant/League/Whatever player probably isn't even aware of it running when they smash through ok -> ok -> agree -> yep -> accept -> accept -> ok -> play.

Any kernel-level anything connected to major corporate servers should be scary and taboo, but except for the alarm-raisers who know what they're talking about, most people don't even understand the implications.

I'm glad Steam is at least marking a big "This game requires kernel level anti cheat" on store pages now. It looks ugly, possibly scary, so maybe that'll raise some awareness and make developers not want to go with it.

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