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It’s a wake up call, but it’s not really going to change anything. You want universal healthcare? We need a general strike. Shut everything down for a month and demand it.
Rather then a general strike the perfect time to get it would have been voting for it in November. Even if everything shut down tomorrow, cities and towns burned, and people starved for months the GOP would spit on you.
Which party advocated for universal healthcare in the 2024 election? Sure wasn't the Democrats.
If the DNC had a supermajority you can bet your ass we'd have single payer. We almost had it in 2010 but came up 1 vote short when an independent voted no alongside every single Republican.
Republicans are so anti-public-healthcare that many of them want to gut medicaid, medicare, and often say things like supporting "Pure Privatization" and "get the government out of healthcare".
This is a clear partisan issue: DNC want it and GOP don't want it.
Maybe the DNC of 20 years ago wanted it, but you're only fooling yourself if you think they want it now.
Find out! Let them do it, the GOP certainly aren't going to so let the DNC try.
They won't try lol. The Harris campaign made it quite clear that it wasn't part of their platform. The Clinton campaign argued against it. The Biden campaign said something about a public option that wasn't mentioned again after the election. The Dems did their best to stop any momentum Sanders had when he campaigned on single-payer.
They don't want to do it.
Vote Dem or the people directly opposed to the thing you pretend to support win. Very easy choice. You should be supporting and promoting the Dems.
Ah, yes, so we've gone from insisting that Dems support something they will openly tell you they oppose, to pure scolding. This didn't work a month or so ago, I don't know why you'd expect it to work now. I'd love to support Dems. They need to make it a worthwhile effort.
Then watch as the GOP causes the death of your loved ones, raises your taxes, tortures people on basis of ethnicity, and deregulates markets
Because you just dont feel like the dems are committed enough.
There's that scolding again, only this time it's far more desperate. It always seems to devolve to this with libs, just start threatening people when you can't defend the Dems' shit policies. Do you think that gets people to vote? Because it doesn't, it just makes you sound like a sanctimonious jerk.
I voted blue this election, in spite of the uninspiring and frankly lousy campaign they ran and the paucity of meaningful change they promised, and in spite of Biden's disappointing administration, his facilitating a genocide, and his lack of any effort towards healthcare reform. I did that because the GOP is worse.
United Health alone gave the Kamala campaign 700k, look it up. Kamala made it quite clear that her campaign did not support universal healthcare. Then just a little over a month after the election, we have a stark reminder that it's wildly popular and that people on all sides of the aisle desperately want to see change. The Democrat party could have harnessed that energy, and likely won. But they didnt. Because they don't want universal healthcare, and the sooner you accept that the sooner you can help us demand more from them.
I'm sorry that basic logic is just sooooo scolding for you. You're feeling so scolded right now, poor thing.
Oh and BTW, Kamala Harris' healthcare plan was to expand Medicare to All Americans and the elimination of Private Health Insurance. Of course that means fuck all without 60 votes because presidents do not control that at all.
Wow that 700k out of their 5M USD lobbying total really went a long ways, huh?
In 2020, when she dropped out of the primaries before any votes were cast due to abysmal polling, yes. In 2024, when she had an actual chance to become POTUS, no she did not. You know that her campaign website is still up, right? You can look this up yourself. Talk about "basic logic" lmao.
Like I said, I voted for her. Let me ask, when can someone who votes blue criticize the party? Not during an election, oh no, that would drive votes to the GOP. Apparently not after an election either, judging by your behavior in this thread. So when, in your esteemed judgment, can one ever demand more than "being marginally better than the GOP?"
Her campaign website is still up let's go read it right now: LINK
Oh look at that, cancelling medical debts and making healthcare a right, not a privilege. All of her plans listed are things she could have actually done as president and things she actually did do as a senator, so it explicitly excludes healthcare for all because: once again, this wacky tangent you've thrown us on means fuck all because you need a Senate Majority to end privatized healthcare and health insurance.
So elect a Dem supermajority and we will have single payer.
So clearly you did look it up. Go ahead and point to where, specifically, it discusses single payer. Calling it a "right, not a privilege" is rhetoric. The actual plans mentioned do not discuss single payer. You see this, right? That these aren't the same things?
I specifically already mentioned that in my comment, where I specifically explained to you that PRESIDENTS DONT DECIDE THIS. SENATE DOES.
Yeah and I'm saying that a Dem supermajority will not magically do something that Democrats have made clear that they are not interested in doing.
Kamala's plans are not destructive, but they would treat a symptom and not the actual disease. That's not nothing, that's why I voted for her, but it's not sufficient either.
Presidents don't decide this unilaterally, but that doesn't stop them from supporting it. Kamala doesn't. Dems don't.
If voting actually worked it would be illegal. It's meaningless as long as the DNC Services Corp controls the controlled opposition party.
lmao why would they even play pretend? We've seen other places in the world like China and Russia don't face any consequences for being opaquely authoritarian and single party.
You're basically saying that US Democracy is fake and that swapping policy stances every 4 to 8 years is a big act? Whats the payoff?
I think we can vote to get all of the things we care about but people are too stupid and easily mislead to try it.