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Former Latrobe CEO's 20-year sentence commuted by Biden
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Keep telling me how both sides are not the same.
Edit: corruption is corruption and it does not matter your intentions or ideology. If you are willing to be ignorant and ignore it because of a letter by a name or because one side does things that align with your wants and needs you are still a part of the problem. There will be no change with either side because they work for the same master, greed. Keep downvoting and explaining how these criminals are different than the others. Good luck.
Both sides are corrupt.
One side is corrupt despite the well-intentioned support of principled people.
The other is corrupt by design, enabled by the narcissistic support of bigots and sycophants.
The former might do the best thing for the country.
The latter will always do the best thing for their own self-interest.
None of our leaders or representatives should be expected to resist corruption. That's why we need checks and balances against corruption, and we as voters need to hold those representatives accountable.
Nice and concise
But if we don’t vote for covert corruption then overt corruption will win.
If you give up and don't vote, then all corruption wins.
It already does. That's why ppl are becoming apathetic
The more corruption settles in, the less effective voting becomes. This is why the citizenry has civic duties beyond voting.
Candidate one: vote for me, the other guy is satan!
Candidate two: vote for me, the other guy is satan!
Candidate three: vote for me, I'll work to improve your life by x,y,z.
All Media, right, "left," center: candidate three is a Communist Nazi that wants you dead and wants breadlines!!!! A vote for candidate three is a vote for your own death!!!
I love our Choices™
Edit: I should have been more clear, I wasn't referring to a 3rd party.
Candidate three might be a Nazi or a communist or they might not. Same goes for candidates four and five. The point is that in our current system the combined ~1 million votes they get isn't anywhere near enough to matter compared to the ~70 million each received by the two major parties.
Our choices suck. I agree, and we should work to fix that.
But we have a system for fixing it, and we need to fix the sytem to fix anything else. The system is run by two parties.
We can try to fix the system by fixing one of the two main parties, but then that party has to win or all of our hard work is meaningless.
We can try to fix the system by supporting a third party, but the system prevents third parties from being competitive, so we need to fix the system before this is a viable option. This option includes violent solutions, where by we overthrow the government by force. This is, in a way, supporting a third party, and in the same way it is completely unrealistic. You're not going to take down the US government with the firearms they let you buy.
We can try to fix the system by appealing to all voters that both parties need to be fixed. The problem there is that one of the parties is only viable because the system is broken. It is the party of corruption. You cannot appeal to that party's sense of duty or propriety, because it explicitly opposes those concepts on principle.
So we're left with three imperfect solutions to a difficult problem. A fourth option is to give up and fuck off. But that's not so much a solution as a concession.
Of the three, only one of them seems actually viable. None are guaranteed to succeed, but at least one could conceivably be successful. The other two are doomed by design. Especially during the election season, when it's too late to enact meaningful change to the structure of the elections.
both sides are not the same
If you don't care about trans people, women, various other marginalized groups, sure.
Most people don't really give a shit about us, unfortunately
if i told you republicans give ordinates less of shit to the point of actively targeting you than democrats, would you believe me. what if i told you to wait until March 20th, and then we can discuss this "both sides are the same" thing again
It sucks, but in a world where some flavour of liberal is the opposition party to the right in most countries:
Vote in the more left option in a two party choice, and things may improve for your average person.
Vote the right-wing option in, you guarantee they won't
The world isn't black and white, as much as you wish it were
Well if you pick just this one topic, sure.
Edit Downvotes, care to discuss abortion?