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But notably Cruz was born to US citizens, therefore he was a citizen. Musk's parents were not US citizens so therefore Musk is not a natural born citizen. Cruz can run, musk can not
Musk got a bill shut down in congress and replaced with one he liked in under a day, I'm not so sure if amending the constitution to allow him to be elected is beyond his reach at this point. it would probably require buying a few democrats also but I bet fetterman and a few others would be happy to join the winning team for the right price.
Amending the constitutional is a much higher bar than people think it is. You'd need way more than just a fetterman here or there. Keep in mind still had 38 republicans vote against his and Trump's second version of the bill
It requires 2/3 of congress, and 3/4 of state legislatures
Assuming he loses zero republicans, this you would need:
67 in the senate meaning you'd need 14 dem senators
290 in the house of representatives meaning you need 70 dem reps
And in state legislatures, he'd need 38 of them to ratify. Republicans only have a trifecta in 23 (it’s unclear if governors can veto ratification or not), they have both state legislatures in 28, and it’s split in Alaska, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and we'll see about Minnesota with some legal challenges.
If we assume no governor vetos nor any republicans going against it, that's 28. Then let's imagine in those split states you convince them all, that's 33. Keep in mind each state has its own list of people you'd need to convince, not just one person here
Then in the other 5 you'd have to be talking about states with dem trifectas where it's hardly going to be politically popular to bend to Musk
You would need on the order of at minimum of 100+ dems in congress and state legislatures to pull that off assuming governors don't veto / ruled that they aren't able to. And also assuming that all republicans go for it at all levels of government, and that dems in other states with republican legislatures don't use procedural tactics to slow down ratification, etc.
That is correct, but let us not also forget the fact of Cruz's birth when he now supports Trump, a major figurehead of the birther movement against Obama and the absolute irony of that. This movement claimed that Obama was not eligible to be President because they falsely claimed he was born in Kenya. Not only was he born in Hawaii, not Kenya, but his mother is and has always been a US Citizen, making him a naturally born citizen. So the his place of birth doesn't matter, just as it doesn't matter that Cruz actually WAS born abroad.
Also, they are getting rid of birthright citizenship, right?
Fuck off Ted back to Cuba.
(Not gonna happen ^^^right ^^^away, but it would be interesting)
Ted’s dad was born in Cuba
It doesn't matter as long as he was a US citizen.
He was born a blob fish though.
10,000 stinkbugs and cockroaches in a skin suit. Get it right.
Ted Cruz's dad was Oogey Boogey?
Heard from a credible source he also killed JFK!