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[-] pbbananaman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Is it fair to call a 70 year lease from the government “ownership”?

[-] prototype_g2@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Nobody "owns" land. Even under capitalism. If you think you do, stop paying the ~~rent~~ tax you pay the government in order to "own" that land and see what happens.

Point is, even if you "own" a house, if the government decides they want to confiscate it, they have a whole army to do it. All ownership is always at the mercy of the government. (More accurately, ownership is at the mercy of whoever has the monopoly on violence, since they can only take ownership through it.)

[-] JargonWagon@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago

"...if the government decides they want to confiscate it, they have a whole army to do it."

This feels pretty random to include. Did I miss something? Has the army been kicking people out of homes lately?

[-] pbbananaman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The downvotes without comments to support the criticism speaks volumes.

I think people here have this dream picture of China or something but that country seems to get the shit end of both sticks when it comes to housing. Expensive housing driven by a capitalist development framework and no guarantees to support to investment into the real estate you buy. That’s why Chinese citizens with money actually invest in real estate outside of China.

[-] pbbananaman@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Just curious - what happens after that 70 years is up? I get to keep my property in perpetuity and pass it down generations as long as I pay my taxes. Is there any such guarantee in China?

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 days ago

Other than the set duration, all ownership is at the government's pleasure everywhere. Luckily, in a lot of places governments serve at the pleasure of voters.

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