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Correct me if I'm wrong.

Afaik, liberalism ambiguously meant both advocacy for human rights and an economic system. To avoid this confusion, the economic system has been moved out as libertarianism.

For example, accessibility improvements of government buildings is a liberal movement.

Minimizing the control over capitalism is a libertarian movement.

There's also so called "liberals" which is not more than a hate speech. We are not "conservatives" or "liberals" in every topic.

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[-] thebartermyth@hexbear.net 2 points 5 days ago
[-] fxdave@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

I mean, this is how I see it: Modern liberalism was too different from classical liberalism, so libertarianism had to have a different name for their classical liberal believes.

[-] thebartermyth@hexbear.net 2 points 5 days ago

Lmao no, they're not "classical liberals". is this bait?

[-] fxdave@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

Of course they extended it with minimal state. But how I understand it, they are very similar.

In contrast, modern liberalism is more like how EU works with its big tech regulations. This is in contrast with the classical free market ideology. Market is not fully free under modern liberalism, because everyone sees its injustice.

Also modern liberalism is interested in social justice like LGBTQ, while the classical is not.

Am I incorrect?

[-] thebartermyth@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago

Yes, you are incorrect for dozens of reasons and using multiple terms incorrectly.

[-] bunitor@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 4 days ago

this is us-american domestic politics brainrot

please ignore any us-american terminology and concepts. both so-called "conservatives" and "liberals" in the usa are liberals. "libertarians" are also liberals. politics in the usa are so skewed to the right compared to the rest of the planet that you think all these are fundamentally different political ideologies, but they're merely fringes of the same one. in the end, they ultimately defend private property, imperialism, and us-american hegemony. republicans and democrats act on behalf of the same interests, they just mold their presentation to appeal to different demographics

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