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People have freedom. This includes the freedom to allow you or disallow you from being around them. You cannot simply break into someone's house and talk to them if they don't want you to, for instance.
Governments do not get this freedom. Governments should and frequently do get constraints that individuals should not.
Here, we are individuals, not governments. This service was made by a bunch of randos, it's theirs. Not all of ours. We are here, in their house, because they invited us. They can disinvite us any time they want, they should and do have that freedom.
Sure, you and I can kick anyone out of your houses for any reason or no reason. But it's kind of a duck move to not tell the person you're booting what they did.
Perhaps, but that’s not what happened in this instance. If you check the mod logs, there’s plenty of explanation for why this user has had comments removed, and has been banned from several communities.
But that does not address my point. My point was that it is evil to "disinvite" without explanation.
Check the modlog, they usually cite which rule was broken. I think "evil" is a pretty strong word, unfair maybe, but lots of things are unfair without being evil.
They should offer an explanation pinned to the top of the conversation tree. They should be clear and upfront. That's the pro-community thing to do.
A very brief one, sure, I could agree with that. Most assholes aren't worth more than a few words from a mod though. This is the internet after all, trolls abound.
They technically provide free labour, you can't have these exceptions from people.
We lucky we have modlogs unlike reddit.
Well we technically provide free labor too. I mean the whole conversation was built by us. The whole system was built to service the necessary stuff that we provide.
Yeah, the modlogs are a step up for sure.
Your participation does not entitle you to break the rules.
I swear some of you people would rather swallow your own elbow than directly address the point.
The point is that you got comments removed and banned from communities for breaking the rules, and you keep missing that point no matter how many times it’s repeated to you.
No, the point is that they are removed without explanation. Explanation is key. It raises the relationship to a more intelligent level and makes a better community. And it's just the right thing to do, obviously.
Not having explanations is annoying.
And has nothing to do with anything else you put in the post.
If that were true, you might have a point. But each one has an explanation attached, regardless of how much you ignore it.
And you are not entitled to an explanation. They are given as a courtesy. You can either choose to accept that or not, but it doesn’t change the facts.
Actually they don't offer explanations, as a rule.
Yet, for each one of their actions against you, they gave explanations.
No, you see the mod log doesn’t count, because he would prefer to be notified more directly! If things aren’t exactly the way he prefers, they don’t count!