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Valve refused to comment for the video.

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[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago

When they were asked to implement age verification in Germany, they simply pulled anything off their platform in the country that would require it instead. Mind you Germany has a system that makes age verification anonymous so if privacy concerns you, you could just implement it. (Almost no platform does because they want your data though.)

Valve doesn’t want to touch age verification with a 10 yard stick and that tells me it is probably the way to go here. Because once they have it, the path for more regulations is clear.

In this arena, more regulation is needed. Anonymous age verification is a good idea, but I question the actual anonymity. It usually depends on trust of some entity. And I just can't fathom an entity that can really be trusted.

[-] Anivia@feddit.org 15 points 20 hours ago

It uses the government ID, which has a built in NFC chip. You can use a phone in combination with your ID and it's pin to verify your age online. The ID scanner app will tell you which parameters the website requests from your ID, and its possible to only request the birthdate.

I don't like the system, but it is truly anonymous

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago

Sounds like it is only anonymous if you fully trust the app. That app has all your information, and the site you are trying to access. And I bet it is completely closed source. It also likely has logs about what sires it is giving information to. Not who's info in that log. But elsewhere it probably has logs on who's id it verified. Get access to both, and software can start to crunch the numbers and figure out who went where. That if course is assuming they don't decide in the future that it is worth just keeping that data together in one spot. There is just no entity that could manage that app which wouldn't have a motive to use the data and power it has.

[-] Anivia@feddit.org 22 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

No, the app is completely open source and has reproducible builds. And the site you are accessing only gets the information it requested, and you see which information it requested in the app before scanning your ID

https://github.com/Governikus/AusweisApp

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago

Now you are starting to sound like you know what your talking about. But I'm not convinced yet. So when the app sends just the requested data to the site, how does the site verify that the data is legit. A person could fork the app and hack it. I am sure they thought of this, I just don't know what thier solution is. And I can't read german.

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