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Poll suggests 13% of Canadians think Canada should become the 51st American state. Just a liiittle less than "at least half".
I would like to punch every single person who said that in the mouth.
God, that’s still over one in ten. I feel like before Trump roughly zero Canadians would like to become Americans. This brain rot is spreading and I don’t know how to stop it and I hate it.
Oh this train wreck will accelerate with P.P. in charge. Carbon tax bad is all that matters according to my dad.
It’s really funny talking to my conservative friends who like to say that anyone to the left of them doesn’t understand economics and then they proceed to talk about things like carbon tax in a way that shows they don’t understand economics.
My other favourite hits from those guys:
“They don’t actually have a billion dollars, a lot of it is tied up in assets!” (And now I have to explain why wealth and liquid assets are not relevant to the context of the conversation we are having, and that literally everybody understands this, and why having wealth as assets is usually for tax evasion reasons in the guise of fuelling industry, yada yada)
“You know free healthcare isn’t free! That money has to come from somewhere!” Literally everyone understands how taxes work you brain dead fucking moron. This one actually makes me angry when people say it to me in person. The whole idea is that single payer is actually cheaper because you are cutting out a useless middleman and removing the profit incentive for letting people just fucking die. Nobody thinks that it’s literally magically free.
With these types try "Basically Free at Time of Access" and "Won't bankrupt you"
That number is appallingly high.
I'm willing to consider that the number has grown recently, but it definitely wasn't anywhere near zero before. There are a lot of areas, often very conservative, that idolize the States.
For example, in the Bible Belt of Manitoba, I wouldn't be surprised if close to, if not a majority of residents would support this. There's a independent streak bordering on libertarian, and many are VERY socially conservative. I didn't spend all that much time there, but I heard multiple people say how they wish they didn't have to pay for other people's healthcare. They're so close to North Dakota, even doing cross boarder trade and many see the higher mean income (sum of all income divided by number of residents) in the US and ignore the lower median income (50th percentile of income).
The problem is that there is nowhere to go. far right goverments are popping up everywhere.
Our right and Americans are not the same.
At least one in ten people will pick the dumbest answer on any survey just because they think it's funny.
And there is the other way of people chose the least controversial answer when doing a poll.
I'd like to see a poll on Canadians' opinion of lashing O'Leary to a dingy and pushing it into an Arctic Ocean current.
Remember when Kevin O'Leary considered running for the leadership of the Conservative party, but dropped it because he's too stupid to speak French? I love the fact that our two official languages saved us from getting our own Trump wannabe.
13 percent is way higher than I expected
Lower than I thought. Once youre out of southern Ontario and the lower mainland of BC, patriotism absolutely vanishes, successive federal governments have treated the "hinterlands" so poorly no one cares anymore about some bullshit eastern tim hortons national image.
I’m writing this as a quarter-part reply, and 3-quarter-part rant, and it’ll probably hang in the middle of somewhere, as I always do when I rant. Forgive me.
Fact checks are important and useful, but can only go so far. Truth, laws, norms, and everything really, has no meaning in Trumpism. They are just tools to drive towards some goal, or are avenues for exploitation.
They’ll say whatever tf they want regardless of facts, because they have enough people that will believe them, and enough people to further spread these disinformation to those who don’t know or care to know about the truth for themselves, and that bolsters their numbers. There’s a quote that goes something like if someone says something false, it’s untrue, but if tens of thousands of people say the same, it becomes ‘true’ to the minds of these people.
They’ll sue whomever their target is over some batshit crazy claim with no care of the outcome, and only to use the legal process to delay or divert, or simply to cripple someone financially, especially individuals with no access to immense wealth.
They don’t believe in any higher power, but will use it to further gather support, which is particularly effective in a world where the religious feel like the world is moving away from religion and thus stripping away their legitimacy.
Trumpism doesn’t play by harmonious social norms. Humans values and emotions are simply tools to them, and they will continue to trample on human dignity as long as it serves their purposes. They’ve learned how to fully utilize the weaknesses and blind spots of our institutions to attack everyone else and keeping themselves safe.
How do we fight and protect ourselves against a force like this? I don’t know. All I can think of is proper education on critical thinking and instilling people with the will and equipped with the knowledge to seek facts, but that would take decades, and will easily be disrupted by those who are on Trump’s side, and there’s also no guarantee that the process would be effective, given how underfunded our education system is, and how there’s also little to no political will to do anything, as they are more incentivized to seek short-term solutions.
OK, I take issue with this statement.
They believe in Musk.
I can currently think of two reasons why you say so. Your statement either implies that you think Musk is of a higher power, or that you’re just trying to say that these bastards believe in Musk in jest and wrongly quoted the statement about believing “something”. If it was the first one, then I would have an issue with your statement. I’m going to assume that the second is why I’m seeing your comment.
But even with the second reason, I’m not sure if I find it funny. I don’t think they believe in him at all, and instead think that they are simply using each other to further their goals, and will gladly cut each other off or even throw each other under the bus the moment doing so outweighs their continued alliance. If that counts as “believing” to you though, then I can see that being funny, though I would fail to see how it fits into this egoistic and maniacal image I have of them.
13℅ Canadian is roughly the same as 50℅ American, as they have more people per capita. Or something like that, I don't really understand American math.