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Only in America.
Which today means the exact opposite of what it did 40 years ago here (Denmark).
These assholes deserve death penalty more than most that actually get it.
Idk man I wasn't physically beat but the Finnish police denied me my prescription medication while holding me for days while I was psychotic. They even turned off the water in the isolation cell they placed me in. Until I reminded them it's actually a crime against humanity to not have water available to prisoners.
I drew more than 300 words in my own blood on the walls. I maybe have had several seizures, or none at all. I'm prone to them, but I couldn't tell as I'm not there when they happen.
So no... not "only in America". But because people think "only in America", no-one believes me in what happened. I have photos of the cell. They tried charging me with vandalising the cell — with my own blood — but when I asked for the tape from the cell, they suddenly got "very uncomfortable, I've never heard them that anxious" freely translated from what my lawyer told me. The charge vanished and they said they've lost the tape.
No-one ever got so much as a reminder of trying to behave better. No-one, excluding my therapist (who's not Finnish), actually believes me. Not even my own family. And I have the scars and photos and documents to prove what I'm saying.
I was literally tortured for three days. In Finland. By the authorities.
In a cell without even a mattress, very cool, light on constantly, never dark even during the night. No-one talked to me. I couldn't get anyone to say a single thing. When I demanded to know my rights one said "we've already told them to you" as they were dragging me into the isolation cell.
"Only in America" indeed.
Maybe it wasn't entirely fair to claim only in America, but it is very widespread in USA, and this case took it to the ultimate step where it became lethal.
I do, and unfortunately I've heard a very similar story here from Denmark, an emigrant who was held in detention (isolation) for 3 days, without seeing a judge, and then released.
I'm so sad these things happen, I don't know why people don't believe you, but I guess you have to have had close up experiences with life on the bottom of society.
You probably wouldn't have been treated like that, if they thought you could afford to throw lawyers after them afterwards. It's always the weak that get abused.
These people are in a position of tremendous power over other people, that power easily corrupts them to think they are entitled to abuse you if they don't like you.
What you experienced is hopefully extreme, my friend at least got water, but he too was withheld from medication, and his condition got clearly worse after the experience.
So I absolutely believe you 100%.
These institution needs to be monitored, this kind of abuse is unacceptable.
You absolutely were, and my guess is that you are not alone, this is something they do to break you, to make you "behave" as they want you to. To make you "respect" their authority.
I don't know you, but I know my friend, and I am pretty sure he is telling the truth, and your stories are extremely similar.
If "bottom of society" means peacefully growing weed in my own apartment without being involves with junkies or alkies or any of the other such people who live around here?
Finland treats anyone even remotely positive about cannabis as being a crack-addict who's ready to sell their own grandma for a hit.
It's not that they didn't fear I can't get a lawyer, it's just that they knew no-one would care. My mom's response to me explaining this was something that indirectly had the implication of "well maybe you deserved it." She said "I can't know what happened there". After I said I can show the evidence and sent her the photos.
Nope. Can't accept it. See the logic in Finland is "if he didn't deserve it, he wouldn't have gotten it". Genuinely. It's like stamped on everyone's forehead when I talk about this.
The cop don't fucking care man. We don't have the sort of American spirit I'm jealous of, one of the rare good things. The outrageous about injustice, knowing cops are shit. Well they're arguably worse than ours, but it's different. Ours are authoritarian because no-one has kept them in check, at all. The local drug cops brazenly violate all sorts of laws.
The fuckers genuinely admitted at my door they don't have a warrant. They work differently in Finland, but basically these cops at my door didn't have the rank to decide on a home search warrant (verbal) whereas more senior ones do. They said "it'll take us like 5 min to get one", I said "please do" and they just grabbed my door and came in.
I started filming instantly and they grabbed my phone from me:
https://www.hs.fi/suomi/art-2000009654524.html
No guessing needed, they're literally came in asking "are you ready to talk yet?" at one point.
And their treatment of me didn't change what I had to say a single word. There was no justification for what they did, but they just lie and I have zero recourse.
Unfortunately I can't read the article because there's a paywall.
But already the headline is bad enough! How the fuck can they claim you aren't allowed to film in your own home?
At least they lost the case.
Seems like Finland is a lot worse than here.
Usually police is pretty relaxed, and I doubt many policemen would make a house search based on the small of cannabis alone.
I have found that the flowers of the hob plant used for beer has much the same smell. Saying it's just that, could at least give them plausible deniability.
https://korkeinoikeus.fi/fi/index/ennakkopaatokset/kko202345.html
Here's the link to the Finnish Supreme Court decision for it which you can use translate on.
The ridiculous thing is their excuse about the smell. Nope. I had a purple led for some basil on my balcony, and a regular AC device. Which could be seen from the street. Those were basically their real reasons. Hell, a trained drug dog couldn't have pinpointed the smell to my door in this building. There's at least a grower, a seller and a buyer on each floor. Mine has two growers that I aware of. And the building isn't that big.
Because the concept of freedom of speech really isn't understood that well by most. People speak English to a degree pretty well, but a lot are intellectually too lazy to actually learn things in English, so theirs cultural and societal understanding isn't exactly up to international standards, and that's just a polite way for me to phrase "the country has a majority of low-brow nationalist racists".
Like casual racism is shockingly acceptable. I've been told off and had a row for speaking against racism for more times than I can remember anyone being even slightly offended about someone's racism.
Like even the weed smoking hippies girls are casual racists, you know? Not to the point of like saying or acting differently in ant way, but in like an internalised stereotyping thing.
I'm honestly not exaggerating when I say Finns still treat weed users as worse than how people treat the lowest crack and meth addicts in the US.
I was genuinely not invited to weddings of my childhood friends — friends whom I had carried out of a party rolled into a mat like some massive kebab, with tequila vomit as the sauce — becsuse "he's a drug addict".
None of these friends have ever seen me even lose my balance becsuse of inebriation. Yet they discriminate. Because Finna are rulewhores.
Even at 5am in a completely empty city on a street where you can see 200m neither way, most people won't jaywalk and even in their drunken aggressive stupor, wait for the light.
It's like they just can't accept the god of bureaucracy to have made a mistake. Ever. It's the same thing with all the officers and doctors and whatnot.
Love the country, hate the people.
And it's not like we don't already have systems that are supposed to hold authorities accountable. But if no-one believes that authorities ever do anything wrong, then there's very little point to those systems.
Where illegal to grow, you should at least use white LED if it's visible, purple may save you 25% tops, but it's not equally efficient for all plants, for some you save nothing.
White LED is often also more efficient, so although it makes poorly utilized green light, you never gain the theoretical 33%, and white is cheaper to buy.
I don't think purple is very relevant anymore, unless you are a professional grower, with crops that are tested for it.
I've heard stories that the make helicopter flyovers here to spot grow lights, IDK if they are true or not. But 9it may be something they are "trained" to look for.
Regarding Finish mentality in general, I can't comment on that, but clearly you've had some very bad experiences. I hope you don't get offended, but you might want to seek help processing some of those experiences. It seems to be wearing you down a lot. I'm not saying it isn't true, I'm just saying it sounds like you aren't handling it well.
I've been growing since ~06-07. So to put it kindly, don't try to teach your father to fuck.
The purple was one of the earliest COB-leds, and it was on my balcony exactly because it would be of no use in my tents. It was marketed as a 200W LED but the actual draw was like 86W. Which isn't unsurprising with the early LED's but as this wasn't from an online vendor but a trusted Finnish gardening store. I bought it in like 2010, when panel such came on the market some years later didn't really exist.
I'm currently running the TS- and FC- series lamps from MarsHydro. Highly recommended.
https://marshydro.eu/products/mars-hydro-fc-e-3000-led-grow-light/
2.8 µmol/J PPE and Max 2.5g yield/watt. Giving a high PPF of 840umol/S
My point is that Just because they saw a purple light, they thought they'd have the right to invade my privacy. They happened to be right, but not for the reasons they had.
I'm considering doing a bait at some point but it would mean taking a break from actually growing anything illegal, and I can't afford that rn.
Technically I am a professional grower insofar that I make most of my money out of it and have been doing so for severally years.
No I really am, because I explicitly mention my therapist.
So that does come off as kinda condescending from someone who didn't manage to even read through the reply they're so worried about.
Pls trust that I know my mental health better than you and the thing right now affecting it the most negatively is people aways commenting some highroading shit like that while making completely baseless assumptions.
With similar quality reasoning I could use that sentence to infer you've personality disorder.
So let's not, shall we?
I'm not saying it's true, but you seem like the sort of ironically ignorant person who thinks their baseless assumptions are for some reason worth something or of interest to anyone. No offense. (You can't take offense now because I said no offense.)
That could be regarding another issue. You stated you had blackouts and if I remember correctly also psychosis, that would be a psychiatrist treating that.
Try to read your comment I responded to again, you criticize basically everybody around you, including people you call friends.
So my suggestion is to see something OTHER than a psychiatrist.
Feel free to completely disregard, it honestly makes no difference to me, I just mentioned it, because it could look that way. But it could also just be that you were in a bad mood when writing that.
I'm sorry, I know you mean well but the constant offering of "solutions" I've thought up and tried more than a decade ago sort of triggers me.
Fucking bureaucracy sucks, not you.
Feel free to completely disregard the bit where you're criticising me as if my criticism was bad and yours wasn't.
Youre genuinely highroading and making assumptions. I'm not upset in any way to some random person online. What I'm writing is 100% neutral and any hostility is something you're inserting into my text. Something that does not exist in it.
I can't help that you can't read neutral text in a neutral way.
It could be that you've always been really bad at relationships, and thus try to compensate by thinking you're capable of advising random people online? (Please read that with a condescending and comforting tone.)
Psychiatrist aren't therapists. They can be, but most are psychologists by training and psychiatrists are MD's.
You don't even understand the basics of what youre talking about.
You have no idea how many doctors I've met, and you completely disregard the bit where I mention that every single other Finnish person — no matter their education or profession — do not believe me.
Me taking advice from you would be akin to a professionally chef taking advice on cooking from a overexcited 10-year old.
Please stop the asinine highroading. Seriously. It's not working. You shouldn't try to pretend to be in a position to advices me. You're not.
For one you don't even fucking apologise for your bullshit assumptions. No. You try to give more bs advice on shit you know nothing about. Ffs.