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Summary

Footage released by the New York Attorney General shows corrections officers at Marcy Correctional Facility brutally beating handcuffed inmate Robert Brooks on December 9.

Brooks, restrained throughout the 15-minute assault, died the next day, with preliminary autopsy findings citing asphyxia and actions of others as the cause of death.

14 staff members have been terminated or suspended. Some officers failed to properly activate body cameras, violating state policy.

Advocates highlight systemic abuse and racial discrimination in New York prisons, while the investigation continues.

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[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 45 points 10 hours ago

I am a former correctional officer of the texas department of justice and this exact same situation happened and I too stood by and listened as it happened. I helped escort the man from his cell to medical. I stood by listening to the other guard talk about how much of his ass he would be kicking. I stood there as they took him into a cameraless backroom and listened as they beat that man handcuffed. I stood to stop it, thoughts of pulling my pepper spray and going in there and just letting loose. A sergeant told me to sit back down and I did. I was not physically overpowered. I sat back down, and I listened. The only difference in this is that my victim didn't die. I reported it afterwards. I reported it to the warden, to the state, to the media. Warden tried to reassign me back under the command of the person I accused in the most dangerous part of the prison. The state sent an investigator but nobody talked but me, not even my victim. I sent everything I had to local media and prison rights groups and heard NOTHING back. No one cared. It happened all the time, it was sanctioned, it happens in every prison in this country. The only difference is that this man died and the countless others did not.

I look at those 14 names and I cannot help but feel I deserve to be on it. I was never punished for my cowardice. I quit, I say ACAB, I tell my story but I was not and never will be punished for my inaction because no one cares about an inmate being beaten by a guard unless he fucking dies.

[-] Jrussell@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Reach out to your local FBI field office and tell them you have a potential civil rights case. Hopefully they will do their job.

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

I did. They didn't. There's no evidence, no cameras, no one would talk. Not my partner through training, not any of the doctors, none of the nurses, none of the sergeants or lieutenant, not even the inmate. It's like it didn't happen. That's why people say ACAB. Because it is every single fucking one.

[-] Jrussell@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

That’s a shame. I’m sorry you have to live with that.

[-] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

It happened to me decades ago. My PARENTS didn't care.

"Well what did you say to make them so angry?"

I was still a teenager, and cops with guns and nightsticks had to beat me up while I was being processed and wearing handcuffs, all because I was "running my mouth".

ACAB

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Mine didnt either. I walked out of that prison immediately after and called my dad, the person I trusted the most in the world just to have him tell me to go back inside. My heart shattered. In that moment I realized I was truly alone in this situation.

"You — against the atom, the charm and the spin. Where the whole world failed — matter failed to bend to human will; human will failed to get out of bed and tie its laces"

I'm sorry that happened to you. I wish I could be something more than sorry.

[-] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

All we can do is try to make things better for the next generations. At least now people are listening. If it weren't for everyone having access to recording devices, we'd never be able to even hope for change.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

You do not deserve to be on that list. You are a good person despite your former profession. The fact that you were able to realize how fucked up things were, to leave, to literally put your safety on the line to try to fix it, make you better than most men on this earth.

Thank you. ACAB (but not the ones that quit from the injustice 😉)

Edit- anyone know a guy who can get this guy on the news to talk about this case and how it's endemic to the system?

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Regardless of my feelings after the fact, I do belong on that list. I did not do anything in the moment it was required of me. Part of it is the guilt yes, but I think this feeling mainly stems from the wish that all people involved should face punishment. And if they should, then I should even if I was the only one who reported it, talked about it, didn't commit perjury and continue their crimes against humanity for the sake of fucking health insurance.

Nevertheless I appreciate you. I expected the same vitriol currently being sent towards these people who did the same thing as me in the moment and all I have gotten is a thank you and "your a good person". It's producing emotions hard to process in the PTSD laden state that this news has sent me into but I appreciate the thought and I take it in kind.

As for speaking about it, I am willing to talk to anyone and everyone who'd listen. I just don't think anyone with a platform is listening. I don't think anyone cares. In a day or two another tragedy will occur and the only ones who will care will be those who wish to bury it and the one being buried. So it goes.

[-] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

A close friend of mine had to quit the force after a few years. Luckily for him the only thing he dealt with was the guilt of having to put kids in jail for weed. He still feels guilty about it.

Admittedly once I found out he was a cop for a few years I didn't trust him. But after hearing his stories and understanding that he had to leave because he wasn't one of them. He actually went to college and had plans to be a detective but had to give up that entire life plan because he just couldn't handle all the corruption and abuse.

Sucks that you have to continue to suffer because the system was broken. Hope you understand that you (and my buddy) were also victims on some level.

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[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 hours ago

Disgusting murderers

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 hours ago

The New York State Correctional Officers and Police Benevolent Association issued a statement reading, "What we witnessed is incomprehensible to say the least and is certainly not reflective of the great work that the vast majority of our membership conducts every day... This incident has the potential to make our correctional facilities even more violent, hostile, and unpredictable than ever before."

You can take that and shove it up your ass. Fuck every one of these murderers.

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

I am a former correctional officer of the texas department of justice and this exact same situation happened and I too stood by and listened as it happened. I helped escort the man from his cell to medical. I stood by listening to the other guard talk about how much of his ass he would be kicking. I stood there as they took him into a cameraless backroom and listened as they beat that man handcuffed. I stood to stop it, thoughts of pulling my pepper spray and going in there and just letting loose. A sergeant told me to sit back down and I did. I was not physically overpowered. I sat back down, and I listened. The only difference in this is that my victim didn't die. I reported it afterwards. I reported it to the warden, to the state, to the media. Warden tried to reassign me back under the command of the person I accused in the most dangerous part of the prison. The state sent an investigator but nobody talked but me, not even my victim. I sent everything I had to local media and prison rights groups and heard NOTHING back. No one cared. It happened all the time, it was sanctioned, it happens in every prison in this country. The only difference is that this man died and the countless others did not.

I look at those 14 names and I cannot help but feel I deserve to be on it. I was never punished for my cowardice. I quit, I say ACAB, I tell my story but I was not and never will be punished for my inaction because no one cares about an inmate being beaten by a guard unless he fucking dies.

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago

Thank you for your honesty. It's a rare commodity these days.

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I don't want to be thanked. What really gets to me was that I never was and never will be punished. No one will ever hold me accountable for it.

And punishing myself is just self harm insanity. So I would never do it. But I hate that I walked away and those more guilty than me walked away too.

I want punishment on me because it means they too would be punished

But instead my own freedom and lack of punishment is a permanent reminder that no justice happened in that situation

[-] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

It's incomprehensible and not reflective of our values, despite how it keeps happening across the nation. The only true response is thoughts and prayers.

It sounds just like the United States conservative's standard response to mass shootings: we haven't tried anything and we're all out of ideas!

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago
[-] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

I wish they'd actually send tots and pears after school shootings. At least the poor children that survived would reliably get fed at lunch.

The fucking USA has lost the plot.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 36 points 15 hours ago

So what about the warden and his staff. It's not like this culture isn't being condoned or even encouraged at the top level. They are accessories to this and probably many other murders.

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

I am a former correctional officer of the texas department of justice and this exact same situation happened and I too stood by and listened as it happened. I helped escort the man from his cell to medical. I stood by listening to the other guard talk about how much of his ass he would be kicking. I stood there as they took him into a cameraless backroom and listened as they beat that man handcuffed. I stood to stop it, thoughts of pulling my pepper spray and going in there and just letting loose. A sergeant told me to sit back down and I did. I was not physically overpowered. I sat back down, and I listened. The only difference in this is that my victim didn't die. I reported it afterwards. I reported it to the warden, to the state, to the media. Warden tried to reassign me back under the command of the person I accused in the most dangerous part of the prison. The state sent an investigator but nobody talked but me, not even my victim. I sent everything I had to local media and prison rights groups and heard NOTHING back. No one cared. It happened all the time, it was sanctioned, it happens in every prison in this country. The only difference is that this man died and the countless others did not.

I look at those 14 names and I cannot help but feel I deserve to be on it. I was never punished for my cowardice. I quit, I say ACAB, I tell my story but I was not and never will be punished for my inaction because no one cares about an inmate being beaten by a guard unless he fucking dies.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

They fired and charged everyone involved and washed their hands of it. 13 guards and 1 nurse is the count I saw last. I totally agree that almost everyone working in that prison is probably as bad or worse than these people, it's been widely known that the Marcy Prison is incredibly violent and abuses inmates, as well as having a strong history of racism among guards.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 17 points 13 hours ago

The US is such a backward ass country. The amount of backward ass things that happen on a regular basis in all parts of this society is just too long to list.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

There's no monetary reason to oversee prisons and LEOs that work there. The goverment is paying a business, or funding a workplace, and any violations will just cost the goverment more money. Creating consequences for police will just cost the goverment more money. There's every reason to ignore this behavior and no reason to create controls and enforce regulations. There was a huge news story about juvenile prisons in TX where child prisoners were being raped a lot, and often. The general reaction to this news in TX was ''they are prisoners, they did the crime'' adults raping children is OK, as long as it's punishment and torture for felons who are also children. Just typing this out makes it all feel like some post apocalyptic fever dream...

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Get a rifle and train. Your chance may come soon.

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

I am a former correctional officer of the texas department of justice and this exact same situation happened and I too stood by and listened as it happened. I helped escort the man from his cell to medical. I stood by listening to the other guard talk about how much of his ass he would be kicking. I stood there as they took him into a cameraless backroom and listened as they beat that man handcuffed. I stood to stop it, thoughts of pulling my pepper spray and going in there and just letting loose. A sergeant told me to sit back down and I did. I was not physically overpowered. I sat back down, and I listened. The only difference in this is that my victim didn't die. I reported it afterwards. I reported it to the warden, to the state, to the media. Warden tried to reassign me back under the command of the person I accused in the most dangerous part of the prison. The state sent an investigator but nobody talked but me, not even my victim. I sent everything I had to local media and prison rights groups and heard NOTHING back. No one cared. It happened all the time, it was sanctioned, it happens in every prison in this country. The only difference is that this man died and the countless others did not.

I look at those 14 names and I cannot help but feel I deserve to be on it. I was never punished for my cowardice. I quit, I say ACAB, I tell my story but I was not and never will be punished for my inaction because no one cares about an inmate being beaten by a guard unless he fucking dies.

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[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 15 hours ago

Direct link to the videos and names of everyone involved in this lynching:

https://ag.ny.gov/osi/footage/robert-brooks

[-] MrNesser@lemmy.world 99 points 18 hours ago

Why haven't all 14 been arrested on murder charges?

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 44 points 15 hours ago

Well you know--they gotta investigate first. They have to get their stories straight, make sure everybody knows the script, determine a decent scapegoat to heap all the blame onto... then on game day they have to work together to ensure the fewest deal with any repercussions and then distance themselves from those people. Most of them will be fine, heck they might not even manage to make anyone accountable with proper fuckery. We'll see! (years from now, long after the damage is done)

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago

How cynical. But are prisoners people?

(Even if they’re Mexican, black, or didn’t have at least one citizen parent?)

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[-] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 63 points 17 hours ago

It's okay. He wasn't a CEO so all good. Not like inmates deserve human rights or anything. /s

[-] MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 24 points 15 hours ago

https://ag.ny.gov/osi/footage/robert-brooks

Link to all the body cams released by the NY State Attorney General

[-] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago
[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 23 points 16 hours ago
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[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 50 points 19 hours ago

Damn, did the inmate not realize they should have called the CEO crisis line?

(Fuck Hochul)

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 9 points 14 hours ago

How is this not terrorism?

[-] mercphilby@discuss.online 8 points 12 hours ago

Terrorism is against the establishment, not with it.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

When a person or small group of people blow up a federal building, that's terrorism. When government agents kill people wontonly that's tyranny.

[-] DougHolland@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

and state-sponsored terrorism at that!

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