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To clarify when I refer to leftists I mean, from left to right on the political spectrum, anarchists, anarcho-communists, communists, socialists, democratic-socialists, social democrats, and progressives. Of people with these political positions probably democratic-socialists, social democrats, and progressives were among the leftists that voted for Biden in 2020 in the greatest numbers.
Authoritarian communists or tankies are not leftists, but red fascists. They occupy the same position on the political spectrum as fascists and of course didn't vote for Biden. Both red fascism and fascism are the same in that they both build hierarchies and then start killing people at the bottom of those hierarchies. The fascists build racial hierarchies. The red fascists build ideological hierarchies. Neither qualify as leftists because leftists want to deconstruct hierarchies.
you don't get to gate keep for a multitude of reasons; but the most relevant one here is because they're not your people and yes; leftists will sometimes break rank to vote for a democrat like they did for obama and also because trump was so shitty in 2020. if democrats put up another non-diet-republican candidate (or if trump royally screws it up again); they too will get more leftists votes; assuming voting is still a thing by 2028.
the problem with the democrats is that they assume that leftists must always vote for them like they're on the same team; but they're not on your team. there are multiple distinct leftists parties in this country; each one has their own unique platform and they only accidentally align with the democratic platform as it did with that of the republicans' until maga took over.
the dnc is trying to make you believe that the people who aren't even on your team are the reasons why they must turn your team into diet republicans and it's so unpalatable that not even your own team members will show up to play ball anymore; much less so for anyone else, including leftists.
There can more than one lesson to learn from an election. Democrats need a populist narrative to push a progressive and socialist agenda. Leftists need to learn to exercise power and keep fascists out of power. The only way to get the DNC to stop being neoliberal is to co-opt the party the way MAGA did to the Republicans. Not voting lets the fascists win and allows the Democratic Party to shift to the right.
We had the ability to stop Trump's second term, but we failed to counteract the spread of accelerationist propaganda and impress the need to exercise power on the behalf of underprivileged people. No amount of fuck ups from the Democrats and their consultants justifies refusing to use our only tool to win political power during elections.