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[-] BMTea@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thanks to that website, I no longer need independent thought or skepticism. So long as a website reports technical facts, I can't dislike their editorial decisions, range of opinions or their record of fuck-ups like becoming advocates for the invasion or Iraq. I will defer to the "unbiased" label slapped onto them subjectively by a website not necessarily ran by someone who can even read non-English language news from around the world or who uses a benchmark of bias that is partocular to their national, ideological and cultural context, which is likely very different from mine. Thanks!

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

If you have to reach two decades back and your gotchya is a choice that most mainstream newspapers and politicians backed, well, I think that says more about your pre determined beliefs on the Economist than it does about the paper but to each their own?

(And of course, if you have a better media bias checker, you might suggest it to the mods at c/politics as it's the one they use.)

[-] BMTea@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I can reach back to literally today with their Gaza coverage. And no, "most" politicians didn't back it - this is exactly where you're falling short. I'm not British or American. An overwhelming majority of politicians in my nation and even my continent thought it was a criminal endeavor. Yet to you, that bias is baked into your national politics - "of course they supported it, everyone did!" I'm supposed to stake their credibility on how much they conform with the opinions of the British government? LOL! And exactly why I find your approach and trust in that website silly.

Oh, the mods at c/politics! Let's do a quick census on how many of them are Russian, African, Asian, can read news in more than one language etc.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What have you disliked about their gaza coverage?

And yes, for an American decision, I used American politicians. It'd be pretty silly to do otherwise "Oh my God, a majority of politicians did not to protect the right to abortion in America, bizzare!" Lol.

Edit: I'd also point out I am neither British not American. Unsure why this matters but it seems to be a thing for you?

[-] BMTea@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Why the hell would you bring up the decision of the US government to illegally invade Iraq as an excuse for a British newspaper endorsing and calling for that invasion and promising it would be a boon to the Iraqi people? Is "Of course the Economist supports whatever Washington decides" is your argument for their being unbiased?

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So, no actual complaints about the Gaza coverage then?

Edit: You might also actually read some of their articles about invading Iraq.

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2003/02/20/why-war-would-be-justified

[-] BMTea@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

You can go ahead and justify your bizarre politician argument before you jump to another topic.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

I can reach back to literally today with their Gaza coverage.

... Proceeds to not do so at all.

So, no actual complaints about the Gaza coverage then?

It's okay to admit that you just assumed you'd dislike the coverage and haven't actually read it.

[-] BMTea@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We can move on to my opinions on the Economist's Gaza coverage once you explain why you believe their coverage of whether the U.S government should invade Iraq was justified by the U.S government's decision to invade Iraq. You seem quite desperate to move on from this argument because it's inexcusable and proves my point.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I didn't say it was justified because of politicians, just that it wasn't a crazy position.

I have no idea how this validates or invalidates the Economist. I get that you think this is some sort of gotchya but it's pretty darned weak.

Stillllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll waiting for your critique of the Gaza coverage. (I know, silly to ask, it's never going to come.)

Have a pleasant new years.

[-] BMTea@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I didn't say it was justified because of politicians, just that it wasn't a crazy position

Actually it was crazy to everyone who didn't exist in the bubble of US and UK elites that The Economists coexists in. Way to prove my point again.

but it's pretty darned weak

It's "darned weak" for me to point out that The Economist is biased in the exact way you keep revealing yourself to be lol? Who could've questioned the Iraq War, I mean it only inspired the biggest single day global protest in human history!

Admit you were caught with your pants down, that you insisted on outsourcing indepedent or critical engagement with press to a subjective barometer website and that your particular range of political and historical knowledge is quite limited and should be expanded.

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