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Tesla has replaced some of its US employees who were let go as part of a big wave of layoffs earlier this year with foreign workers using H-1B visas, which CEO Elon Musk is now campaigning to increase.

Over the last week, Elon Musk has been promoting the increase of H-1B visas, which are used to bring foreign workers into the US for “specialty occupations.”

Qualified foreign workers need to be sponsored by a company to get the visa, which lasts three years, extendable to six years, after which the holder needs to reapply.

The visa holder must maintain employment at the visa sponsor to retain the work visa. The worker would have to leave the country if the employment ends for whatever reason. This has led to some criticism as it gives tremendous power to the employer and can lead to a modern version of indentured servitude.

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[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Imagine if you lost your job to an H-1B visa holder and you voted Trump to make America great again. Boy would you feel dumb...

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

I don't follow. Wouldn't that person be happy that Trump is trying to deport the person you were replaced by in this situation?

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 1 week ago

Nah. Trump loves H-1Bs. He used to hate H-1Bs but his new corporate masters gave him new convictions.

Anyway, he promised to deport the ten billion illegal immigrants that commit rape, murders and eat pets up and down the country on day one of his presidency. He said nothing about legal indentured workers that make his billionnaire buddies money.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

I know all of that, but in the specific situation above wouldn't the laid-off worker feel happy that the company who wronged them is now suffering?

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Tesla is suffering? Where?

All I see is Tesla having replaced a bunch of expensive US workers who can unionize and walk out at will with underpaid foreigners who have a strong incentive to not get the sack. The only "cost" to them is a little extra egg on their CEO's face, who already carries an entire omelette on it anyway and doesn't seem to mind.

I'd say Tesla is doing fine, and the only people who suffer are the poor SOBs who got fired, and the rest of us for years to come because a critical number of short-sighted voters decided to reelect the orange utan who will empower his billionnaire buddies to do more of the same.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Where in the post was Tesla mentioned? I'm talking specifically about the hypothetical situation outlined in the post.

  1. Person A is laid off from their job so that their company can exploit a foreign worker for lower pay.
  2. Foreign worker is deported.
  3. Company is now without a worker, whereas they wouldn't be in this position if they weren't using exploitative business practices.
  4. Person A feels that Company is getting their just desserts.

Am I misreading something?

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm not sure which alternate reality you're reading this Lemmy post from, but in mine, I read an article about Tesla firing US employees to replace them with H-1B workers 🙂

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

I wasn't referring to the article, I was referring to the specific reply that we're chatting about

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you're referring to my reply, then I guess you totally missed the sarcasm.

And just in case you've been living under a very large rock, Donald Trump and his ultra-rich puppetmasters have flip-flopped on the H-1B issue, since they don't need to lie to the American voters anymore, and they are now fully embracing fucking them over and replacing them with lower-wage indentured foreign workers.

If you're talking about something else, then you lost me...

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago

Aha, the flip-flopping is exactly what I missed and why I was confused. Thanks for the explanation.

[-] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 3 points 1 week ago

Item 2 is your error, the foreign person would be here on a work visa so not an illegal immigrant. So person A is without a job while their company gets to pay someone less for doing the same work.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

I think I misread "increase" as "decrease" because the conversion for the past few weeks has been on how Republicans want to get rid of H1B workers. Now they've totally 180'd?

[-] GammaGames@beehaw.org 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Prez Musk did, so it’s slowly starting to spread down the incoming administration. The MAGA underlings still seem to think they have any say and are raging against it though

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago

Trump isn't trying to deport H1B workers, though. Well he was until a few days ago when his billionaire masters said otherwise so now he's not.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

Aha that's the missing piece of the puzzle. Thanks!

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