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[-] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 271 points 4 days ago

Sorry OP but this kinda gives "EPIC: WOKE FEMINAZI OWNED ON CAMERA" vibes.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 120 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah... it can be interpreted that way. But even as a feminist myself, it is a dumb performative sort of protest. Paternal surnames are the least important fixtures of our patriarchal society, and, unless it was created wholecloth, there are no surnames that aren't patriarchal historically, as the meme points out.

[-] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I wasn't trying to call you a misogynist, just point out how the meme might look at first glance.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

Wasn't my post, just advocating for OP

[-] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago

If they think their actions are having much effect, sure, but otherwise I think you're making assumptions and overreacting. Not everything is for show, people can do things like that just because they personally want to.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

The context of the meme implied she was doing it because she's a feminist and that taking her mother's name was somehow an expression of that. Of course she can do that, but it isn't achieving anything if that was the goal

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 7 points 4 days ago

she is achieving and asserting herself, a right that is denied to her on most every other level.

names are symbols. taking ownership of your name may not be material, but it is meaningful. if names were meaningless, trans people wouldn’t change their names, African-American communities wouldn’t change their names, et cetera. but they do, and feminists do, because achieving oneself, having domain over oneself even to the extent of identity, is meaningful especially against a history where that right is restricted against you in favor of the dominant class.

Sure. It would be personally meaningful. Changing your name is always meaningful, I would hope. But it is not contributing to the the dismantling of the patriarchal norms. Not every action has to be, of course. But the conceit of this post is implied to be that her intention was just that, a rejection of patriarchal naming conventions. If that was her intention, it was misguided and failed to achieve that goal.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe -1 points 3 days ago

you take a conservative (lowercase c) approach to the concept more than i do, and that’s fine.

but from a holistic perspective, the very fact that we have this conversation proves my position. the symbols stand for something. they promote dialogue and awareness of patriarchal repression by subverting it. little girls can look to the woman who takes her own name and derive conviction of self worth and autonomy.

none of this means that taking one’s name is the ultimate be-all feminist act, but i just take issue with your characterization of it being “dumb performative.” i encourage you, as a self-proclaimed feminist, to reconsider heaping that kind of abuse onto people just extending their reach to where generations before was impossible. at worst you appear to be recentering patriarchal narratives, at best you’re being mean.

[-] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago

Okay, and? Why is your immediate thought to mock that?

I didn't mock it. The meme did.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago

That's the point, but satirically. The fact that homelander is the second frame immediately means the take is bad.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 38 points 4 days ago

Sweet child... The amount of people who don't see homelander is scary

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Good point! But I also never saw it. Just know it from the comics and the news.

Also, the amount of people who don't GET homeowner is scary...

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago

Yeah, those homeowners and their... *checks notes Homes!

[-] jdeath@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago
[-] MBM@lemmings.world 5 points 3 days ago

Lemmy is no better than Reddit in terms of sexism and media literacy

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 days ago

!lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world in particular has a weird propensity to anti-feminism that i don’t see elsewhere. i’ll get about 60% downvotes on this comment just as everywhere else in this thread just for saying so lol

something about the old school “relax librul it’s called dark humor” mindset is specially present here

[-] MBM@lemmings.world 18 points 4 days ago

OP's comments don't seem very satyrical :')

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

this lol. i would not be in this comment section if OP wasn’t obviously taking the side of homelander here. if there was ever satire in the post it was lost as soon as OP got their hands on it.

[-] Faresh@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago

I don't think that's obvious to anyone who hasn't watched that movie/series/whatever. At least it wasn't obvious to me, because I don't know that guy.

[-] tomi000@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Not so sure. It may just as well be that OP thinks Homelander is the cool guy and the meme is meant unironically. Their comments here suggest that and their posts are mostly comprised of golf and borderline sexist / boomer jokes

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Homelander is acting in character in this meme but Firecracker certainly is not.

[-] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It’s one of those posts that IS funny, but makes OP’s viewpoint ambiguous. And if this was reddit, incels would come out of the woodwork to support the meme.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 4 days ago

I think that's the intention, but in an ironic/satirical fashion.

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