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Ryan Donais started building the small modular homes this summer as he watched the city's housing crisis becoming more dire. He said he didn't want to go through another winter seeing people living on the streets, so he put his background in construction to use.

"I just don't see any changes. It's been many years with people outside and it's not changing. I couldn't imagine being outside for years, you know?"

Since then, Donais has built three homes at a cost of about $10,000 each, most of which has been paid for through donations to his GoFundMe page.

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[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

A false address is still fraud, like I said. I got no moral objection to that, but it comes with its own problems, and tends to be short lived. And you're still missing my point. It's not about what you would prefer. It's about treating people like adults and letting them make their own choices. You're still trying to decide everything for them.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

It is not a false address, it has been purposely setup to give homepess people an address of service for forms. To get around beauracracy

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

That depends what the address is being used for. If you just need to collect mail, it's not a problem, but in the examples I listed they're specifically asking where you reside. You cannot simply put a PO box or a mail forwarding address.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Seems odd since some places only have PO Boxes.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

In those situations you have an address, but mail intended for that address is placed at a holding location (usually a communal post box at the end of the lane) for you to collect. But it's not like your drivers license says "PO BOX 12345678". You still have a physical address that corresponds to a particular residence at a particular place.

The question is, if a cop needed to arrest you, where would they go? If a bank needed to send a lawyer to serve you papers, where would they go? What side of the local municipal and county boundaries are you on? Whose jurisdiction are you under? These are the things that matter when you're using an address for legal purposes. It's not just about where mail goes.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Where I grew up we had PO BOX as our address, not at end of street, but at the town's Post office. Drivers license had PO BOX because that is how you would get mailed citations or new license. I am familiar with the rental style POBOX you reference, but these were municipal govt post boxes.

Ironically they renumbered our streets after about 30 years so the address changed LOL

As far as policing, I'm in Canada so we had provincial police, and province Im in now and others use federal police, so the jurisdiction stuff didn't apply

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

Sure, whatever I'm saying here is never going to apply identically everywhere.

At the end of the day, we're talking about homeless people in Toronto, so it's not particularly helpful or applicable.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

Right, agreed. My initial point was some cities create a street address to represent the homeless encampment (or homeless people), and the homeless number their tents. This was so that support systems or jobs that need something on a form for processing get satisfied, and homeless get mail if needed. I sure hope somebody comes up with a better method of the housing issues. Here in BC the cities have bought up old hotels and converted them to low barrier housing, but it doesn't address all their needs like mental health care, drug rehabilitation, etc

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