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[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What? We have credit scores in the UK. Used for getting mobile phone contracts, housing, bank accounts, credit cards, loans, etc.

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

The UK is just the "light" version of the US

[-] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago

Uh, no, not really.

The British attitudes to work, social systems and regulatory standards are more closely aligned with the EU than the US, even post-brexit.

We are very diplomatically aligned with the US as a result of our historical/cultural overlap and trading relationship, though.

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

post-brexit

True, doesn't sound to me like anything the US would do xD

[-] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago

I don't think the US would leave the EU given they're not in it xD

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

To be serious, the sentiment behind Brexit is the exact kind of sentiment you see in US people/politics as well: right-wing propaganda, xenophobia, resistance against any kind of authority, nationalism.

UK is literally the parent of the US. Puritan culture flows through both. A national superiority complex (which you seem to be a slight victim to). Surveillance capitalism. Deregulation.

Yes, the issues in the UK aren't as severe as in the US, they are more aligned with EU/socialist values, but that's why I said it's the "light" version of the US, didn't say they are the same. But out of all European countries, the UK is definitely the most similar to the US by a large margin.

Edit: also, Brexit is basically the same as the thoughts of some Republican states like Texas seceding from the US.

[-] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago

I mean, I don't disagree that there's similarities especially wrt to nationalism etc, but I also think those things are far more widespread than the UK and US.

Germany for example has had the AfD emerge as a major party with a big rise in nationalism, Italy has Brothers of Italy in power, who were an explicitly fascist party until very recently, and Italy has a long history of nationalism. China and Russia are extremely right-wing, propagandised, xenophobic, nationalist, surveillance capitalist and deregulatory (moreso wrt Russia), but it would be very silly to claim that makes them America-like.

I'm just stating how I see it from the perspective of a person actually from Britain - not sure what you're referring to wrt UK/me personally(?) having a superiority complex about it, in fact I'd argue self-deprecating, anti-British attitudes are an integral part of British culture in a way that is a direct inverse of US nationalist fervour.

I just think "the UK is America lite" is a very reductive way to look at a country that is highly culturally and politically distinct from the US. Whether that's the NHS (the first ever single-payer national health system), which the US has no equivalent of, the importance placed on the separation of church and state, or the far stronger regulatory frameworks that have frequently been a preventative factor that have repeatedly caused trade deals with America to fail (eg the whole bleached chicken thing).

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