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As an owner of a competing email service, I’m primed to dislike Proton, but god damn, I just can’t. They’re an awesome company. I hope that in the coming capitalistic hellscape (wait, we’re already in a capitalistic hellscape), Proton is able to defeat the 70% market share behemoths of Gmail and Exchange.
I’m really glad to see they’re supporting Ladybird too. That’s such a cool project.
Which provider if you don't mind sharing?
It’s https://port87.com/. I’m still working to make it ready for business use, but it’s ready to use as your personal email. It’s really good for keeping your email organized, which is something I’ve always struggled with personally.
It’s behind a waitlist right now, but I send out invites about once a week.
Good job, I'm with tuta and am super hesitant to switch since ctempla dropping the ball 3 years ago else I'd ask for an invite. But honestly need more indie providers like tuta, ctempla and proton.
I completely understand. One thing I’m working on right now is custom domain support, so that you can either use
yourname-labelname@yourdomain.comor even justlabelname@yourdomain.com. That way if you ultimately decide to switch providers, you wouldn’t have to change all your email addresses. I’m hoping to have that available within the next few months.That's pretty much how addy.io works, I think their technology is also open source? At least free for selfhosted use, I never looked into the license itself.
Just had a look at your service and it sounds quite compelling. I'm just wondering how the "not a bot" sender confirmation works - would they essentially get an autoreply where they have to solve a captcha, click on a specific link or whatnot?
I'm curios how that works with senders that aren't individuals but e.g. services I'm signing up for.
Any label you only want real people to send email to, you would enable screening, and they’ll get an autoreply with a link. Right now it’s just a link, but if I need to in the future, I could add a captcha.
Any label that you use for signing up somewhere, you wouldn’t enable screening, so that way they can send automated emails to you there. If you use an address for a label that doesn’t exist, it gets created as a “pending label”. Then you can approve or block it (or ignore it and it eventually gets deleted).
How is this patented? I had a professor show us how to do this in college.
The patented part is that you can have multiple email addresses for the same user, and a subset of them can provide challenge-response screening to filter automated messages. The patent is publicly available on the USPTO website.
I just signed up to the waiting list. So how long do you plan to operate? And how do I know you are not reading my emails? I used to live in Escondido lol.
Let's say I had an established company ..not X...let's call it company "awesome". So your plan seems interesting because I could route awesome.com to you and then you handle the labels. Is that the plan? That way I don't have the send all my clients a new labeled email for every employee?
I don’t have any plans to cease operations, and I have enough capital to continue operation without profit for several years. Hopefully by then I’ll be profitable, though!
I don’t actively monitor any of my users emails. The only things that would justify reading any user’s email is if they are exhibiting suspicious activity or another user reports them. As far as whether you can know that, unfortunately there’s nothing I can do to assure you other than put it in my terms of service and privacy policy. Any email service that receives emails unencrypted from other senders technically has the ability to read your emails, even ones like ProtonMail that then encrypt the email for storage.
Yeah, basically the plan is to offer a full business email service. Each of your employees would have their own “bare” address, which could then be decorated with their own labels. So an employee named John Doe could have johndoe-somevendor@awesome.com for communicating with Some Vendor.
I’ll also have available the standard features like mailing lists (like sales@awesome.com), user management, security and data retention policies, etc.