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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

I don't think that's a good definition, since Holocaust documentaries would be propaganda since it makes America look like the good guys.

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That would definitely be propaganda since it was the Soviets who actually did all the work while the American's ratlined the Nazi's into their country, allowed them to transform their government institutions, consolidated power during the red scare and became a Nazi Empire over the next 80 years.

[-] finder585@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

American’s ratlined the Nazi’s into their country,

FYI, the Soviet Union also recruited Nazis into their ranks - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Osoaviakhim

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you compre both events beyong the absolute surface you might find the difference:

The soviets kept them under lock and key, extracted their knowledge and then got rid of them.

The US gave them high paying jobs, citizenship, honored their work after they passed, and amnesty for their crimes.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago

Let me get this right, your saying all reporting on the Holocaust is propaganda?

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm saying everything you know about everything is propaganda. Try reading books, specifically by Bernays then come back to this conversation.

You fucking yank libs with your bullshit exasperations - Let me get this right, lol have you ever read a book? You don't need to reply, I know the answer and I blocked you because I don't have time to be libsplained, just posting memes that you're proving right.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

I think any books I've read you'd call propaganda, I'm not sure what you wouldn't call propaganda.

[-] finder585@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Well you see, American propaganda is cringe, while my superior vintage Soviet propaganda is based.

Hoped this comment was helpful :)

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Every public communication is propaganda, that is the point being made (which you missed). The difference between good or bad propaganda are the goals.

For example: Propaganda for higher wages and polical participation? Good.

Propaganda for wage depression and chauvinism of any kind? Bad.

Which brings us to your post: Most soviet propaganda indeed was of the good kind. While most american propaganda indeed is of the bad one.

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