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They are still ignored, or turn the population away from your propositions.
There is evidence to suggest that you are wrong
https://phys.org/news/2024-10-disruptive-protests-fringe-groups-moderate.html
A bit of a long shot, isn't it:
So, people didn't change the way they see the protesters, didn't support their cause any bit more, but were more sympathetic to people that protested in a less disruptive way (without actually agreeing with them).
If you want to call this a win, ok, but it's a really tiny one.
I didn’t say that the protests like this make massive measurable positive effect. You claimed they had negative impacts on what the protestors wanted to achieve. Which according to this single study was incorrect in this instance, and in fact it may help the more moderate protestors.
Dude, you are replying to my first post on the conversation.
Anyway, that one study is about a very widely known cause. People don't change their minds about those easily, neither for supporting nor for opposing it. Also, beware of social studies that find tiny effects.
It only takes 3.5% of the population to peacefully protest and create change.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world
So, in actually, your sentiment is factually incorrect.
They have had more success convincing governments to increase the penalties for jaywalking.
They would have better results picketing a gas station.
They'd have much better results targeting ICE cars on dealer lots.
I think the road might be a better option than those last two. They're private property, which gives cops an excuse to beat up protesters for trespassing and refusing to comply.
The only valid metric to measure against is their stated intent. Harassing the general public is only a "better option" if their intention is to stiffen the laws against jaywalking, as that is the only effect they have managed to achieve.
They could always protest on the sidewalk. My point was to say that any protest on private property would be short-lived and more akin to a public beating than an actual protest.