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Batteries do last 300,000 miles. They might give only around 80-85% of their original range, but they are still very usable vehicles. Again this also depends on the reliability of the manufacturer and on the how the user has maintained the vehicle.
Just like how a shitty hyundai engines from back in the day would not last 300,000 miles, poorly managed batteries (like in the older generation nissan leafs) will also not last that long.
I just went into an electric motorcycle shop here in my country, and I was told the battery would need to be replaced every 3 years.
Most electric vehicles that ive found will not last 300,000 miles. Worse, I can't figure out which will last and which won't last.
Motorcycles batteries won't last as long as car batteries. The main reason being motorcycles (at least in the west) are designed to be high performance, fun to ride machines. Smaller batteries (because motorcycles don't have much space) combined with higher discharge rates (because they are being driven fast for fun) means more cycles on the battery.
For comparison, I drive a moped/e-scooter that is has been tuned for slow, local rides. That thing comes with a 7 year, 80000 km warranty on the battery so the manufacturer thinks the battery will last at least that long before hitting 70% SoH.
Modern 4 wheeled EVs (mainly cars) should last that long. Bikes/motorcycles will not and frankly, I have never seen a motorcycle or moped (ICE or EV) last for nearly 500,000 km on the original powertrain.