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There's almost always a more deserving community that could use some good content and growth! (lemmy.world)

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[-] hark@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago

Oh boy, another post of .world furiously masturbating over the evils of .ml

[-] forensic_potato@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Considering most .world users are (former) Reddit users, it makes sense they'd get easily spooked by *insert thunder noises and ghost sounds:

MARXISM! UuUuHh!!

That platform has turned quite to the right with their moderation and acceptance

[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 day ago

why say this on .world?

[+] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world -9 points 1 day ago

Nobody is spooked by anything. Many (like me) have the opinion that Marxism is a trash ideology and so shit on the place where its ideas are traded the most as they're trading trash opinions.

[-] forensic_potato@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nobody is spooked by anything.

This is just purely and demonstrably false. Not only it is wrong from a historical point of view, but it also ignores current political conversations in which "Leftists/Communists" are used as a scare tactic.

Many (like me) have the opinion that Marxism is a trash ideology

I see. What specific criticisms do you have for Marxism then?

[+] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world -6 points 1 day ago

Not only it is wrong from a historical point of view, but it also ignores current political conversations in which "Leftists/Communists" are used as a scare tactic.

Fair enough, i guess i also "fear" communism in a sense and believe that humanity must work to prevent ourselves from reaching such a state (at least the sort that is typical of it) but i don't think that's where much of the criticism on Lemmy stems from

I have a lot of criticisms, but I don't currently have the energy for a long debate. However, my main criticism is that Marxism is unnecessary as many good things have been achieved and can be achieved under a social democracy.

There's also the point on how Marxism is practically unachievable without collectivisation, which allows for the possibility of tyranny. Soft totalitarianism as i like to call it. It has gone wrong in the past and will probably continually do so.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

I have a lot of criticisms, but I don't currently have the energy for a long debate.

Classic.

[-] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I genuinely don't. I have engaged in multiple debates about this stuff in the past though. I also outlined a couple of my criticisms, so if you would like to address those instead of trying to be snarky, that would be welcome

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago

I'll just point out you called Marxism a trash ideology and then subsequently called it unnecessary because of an ideology that is almost inherently rooted in Marxism.

[-] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

It's trash because of the second criticism i stated and others i have that i wasn't ready to type out.

[-] sad_detective_man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago

I'm just here having newly federated everything and glad to be the fuck away from reddit

[-] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

welcome! there is constantly infighting here. you chose a good instance.

[-] chandlerbung@lemmy.cafe 19 points 2 days ago

.world is the most 'reddit' like of Lemmy, and that's not a compliment.

[-] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

completely agree.

[-] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Lemmy.world is just more popular than other lemmy instances. At least it's not threads.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

It's also where a lot of the bigger subreddits set up shop during the API thing, and to an extent the "default option" when setting up an account.

[-] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah I started there myself but quickly migrated. Tried to find an instance that wasn't filled with ideological rat poison and also wasn't the mass appeal one.

I don't think I see a lot of posts on lemm.ee though, but I think it's fine?

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

They consider themselves a general purpose instance, with minimal oversight or censorship, and I've had no issues so far. Either them or sh.itjust.works are the ones I'd choose.

[+] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -8 points 2 days ago

The .world admins are puppets of the Dutch government and the .ml admins are puppets of the Chinese government

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Okay, so abiding by the law where your servers are hosted is being a Puppet.

Go stir up some drama in 196. There at least you know what you are doing.

[-] J4g2F@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

.world Admins and mods don't follow the Dutch law. They clearly follow there personal biases and the I think that it's okay if they where honest.

Instead of saying we don't like you talking about jury nullification. They say it isn't allowed by law. Jury's are not even a thing in the Netherlands. They say they follow the law, but they just follow a ideology and are lying about it.

.ml admins and mods clearly have a personal bias and are honest about it. You can think it's a shit take. But you know where they stand for. Like it or not.

E: mods of communities don't always follow there admins line of course. And there are shit mods on both instance

[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I feel like an old man asking this, but what is the theme of 196?

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 days ago

Here's a translation of the relevant Dutch law against violent speech:

Article 137d: "He who publicly, orally, in writing or graphically, incites hatred against, discrimination of or violent action against person or belongings of people because of their race, their religion or their life philosophy, their gender, their heterosexual or homosexual orientation or their physical, psychological or mental disability, shall be punished by imprisonment of no more than a year or a monetary penalty of the third category."

Is being a CEO a religion now?

(Fun fact technically irrelevant to our discussion: being biphobic or aphobic is allowed in the Netherlands)

[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Your last point all depends whether we take the spirit of the law or the letter of the law… but perhaps there could be a non-Dutch higher court to decide any contentious points?