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[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago

Yeah... so does not... that's the whole damn trolley problem thing... there were clear and defined outcomes for not pulling the switch. May have been justifiable, not even debating that, but you still own the choice.

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago

the whole damn trolley problem thing

doesn't have an answer. it's a thought experiment to expose your personal ethics. deontologists never touch the switch.

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago

deontologists still get splattered, even if it's the correct choice.

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago

but they have no responsibility for the circumstances.

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world -1 points 15 hours ago

Didn't say they did. People die none the less. If that's acceptable that's fine, but call it what it is: An acceptable loss.

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 hours ago

it is immoral to flip the switch and murder someone. that doesn't make the situation acceptable

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world -1 points 15 hours ago

I don't disagree, it doesn't change that you need to own the bodies as an acceptable loss.

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago

no, you don't need to accept it.

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world -1 points 15 hours ago

doesn't make much difference to the bodies

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago

except that you're not locked in a booth, so there actually are things you can do besides pull a lever.

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago

I'm done with this, but no, there was not. I respect and acknowledge anyone choosing a protest, I really do. I'm a registered libertarian for gods sakes. There we two choices, one was going to win, the other wasn't. If the reason someone allowed people to die was because less people would die in the future so be it, when it came down to it, that was the only choice on the table. Would have loved if it was different, but it wasn't. You don't get to avoid the splatter.

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago

there are still things you can do to save the people endangered by both your vote and the people who voted for the other candidate

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago

Endangered by my vote? I don't like the splatter I'm getting. In fact I hate it, but I do own it. I tried to get less of it to wipe off.

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago

I thought you were done

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago

think of all the people who Kamala would have imprisoned, deported, or shipped the bombs to kill. go do something to save them.

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